No one I've ever voted for in the US for President, senator, or Governor has ever been elected.
I think someone I voted for house of Representatives got elected once though.
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No one I've ever voted for in the US for President, senator, or Governor has ever been elected.
I think someone I voted for house of Representatives got elected once though.
the only reason why there is an election is due to labours stupidity in keeping corbyn.
The very worst result long term for uk is labour get near same seats due to protesting v tories and corbyn strengthens grip on party.
At least a wipe out now could start a process of change.
This is it, but it means 4 more years of even more Tory Tories
I'd love for the Lib Dems to score a shock win but of course that's a massive pipe dream for quite a few reasons. I think Tim Farron actually comes across very well from being initially pretty skeptical of him. He's not ideal but he's the only one of the main parties talking any sort of sense and being realistic in terms of the massive bureaucratic clusterfuck we're in and face in the future
Labour are so far off in their current state it's unreal, in fact by going with Corbyn and no longer playing the Centre/Centrist game they've actually enabled the Tories to clandestinely move further to the right and the longer they continue to do that the longer that's perpetuated and the more right the Tories can become. This is totally counter-intuitive and defeats all the principles of the party, not that they know what those are currently
On Facebook the Labour propaganda has reached new heights, up to 15/20 posts a day saying how wonderful Corbyn is and if he is voted in everyone except the very rich will be better off. He intends hiking income tax for everyone who earns over £80k. now that might be a lot in some areas of the country but in the South due to the high cost of living that is not a lot of money and many people earn it. Then after he has hiked Corporation Tax so any firms that can will move to the EU and any that were planning on coming here shy away he will be getting a higher tax out of a smaller pool of money. Yet can still spend billions on the NHS, nationalising railways/utilities, Schools, and now student financing.
If Labour get in the IMF will be running the country within 4 years, or the place will be so crap the Tories get back in and start the austerity plan again for a few years before Labour start again with "it will be better under us", repeat ad nauseum.
If Labour get in the IMF will be running the country within 4 years, or the place will be so crap the Tories get back in and start the austerity plan again for a few years before Labour start again with "it will be better under us", repeat ad nauseum.
I would vote Labour if they had not been taken over by a bunch of champagne socialists whose politics are still at the sixth form stage. Can't really bring myself to vote Tory, but I don't smoke dope so voting Lib-dem irks as well. Clearly would never vote for UKIP, racist arses, so that leaves the Greens I suppose. Ah well on with the hairshirt and sandals. Be bloody lentils for tea every night as well!
Please explain the 'cost' of re-nationalising the railways, though I have to admit that the main trick was missed when we effectively nationalised/bailed out the banks such as RBS that owned the train-leasing companies. This would be more than outweighed though by the FACT that running a privatised network costs 2.5 the amount per passenger mile to subsidise than the old BR ever did (accounting for inflation, etc), and that over £25bn has simply been siphoned off in profits since 1995 by the very privatised, publicly subsidised train companies. Proof positive that the market doesn't always have the answer, and that private enterprise knows best (though it certainly knows best how to look after its own interests).
You need to get your head out of the Daily Mail's arse. Corbyn is a ****ing disaster, but the asset stripping of national industries and public bodies over the last 30 years has been a total con, and a pox on Blair's Tory-Labourism that he and Mandleson never did a thing to reverse it.
I agree with your comment about asset stripping. Certain industries should have been privatised as governments had no right getting involved in them. The essential services such as water, gas, electricity, roads, rail, NHS, education, etc should be government owned.
I have said on this thread before that Blair was more Tory than most recent Tory governments he was so in with big business and The Sun he effectively sold his soul to be PM.
The worst thing that happened to Labour was the early death of John Smith. He would have led a Labour party that ensured fairness to all.
The point I was trying to make that was that all the party's are currently unelectable for the average working man. Labour will run up huge debts if they go through with their policies as the money just is not there, the Tories as usual will look after their mates in the City and the rest of the party's have such small support they are not relevant.
Whoever wins we are in for a rough ride.
I have said on this thread before that Blair was more Tory than most recent Tory governments he was so in with big business and The Sun he effectively sold his soul to be PM.
The worst thing that happened to Labour was the early death of John Smith. He would have led a Labour party that ensured fairness to all.
The point I was trying to make that was that all the party's are currently unelectable for the average working man. Labour will run up huge debts if they go through with their policies as the money just is not there, the Tories as usual will look after their mates in the City and the rest of the party's have such small support they are not relevant.
Whoever wins we are in for a rough ride.
Labour and libs combined with snp as well wont add up to 33%.of seats imo.
Tories are going to landslide it.
Tories are going to landslide it.
The everyone except the tories coalition?
Yes. Well.. even if you added everyone up including welsh and unionists there not enough today so im really just saying tories could well have 2/3rds majority
Whereas the Tories manifesto of "we're all doomed and we'll make it worse" sounds cracking like...
I'll give it another three hours before the Mail and the Sun start banging on about Corbyn and his support for the IRA.
Took a bit longer, but here she goes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-207419048&reply=207419048#comment-207419048
Andy Burnham castigated for saying the same thing May herself said. God, this woman is on the same plain as the terrorists in my book.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-207419048&reply=207419048#comment-207419048
Andy Burnham castigated for saying the same thing May herself said. God, this woman is on the same plain as the terrorists in my book.
Took a bit longer, but here she goes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-207419048&reply=207419048#comment-207419048
Andy Burnham castigated for saying the same thing May herself said. God, this woman is on the same plain as the terrorists in my book.
Have you seen the tweet from the Labour councillor and Labour supporters suggesting the attack was very convenient for the Tories. Some even suggesting it is a false flag attack as the big arms companies do not want Corbyn to win. Sick trash the lot of them, as is Katie Hopkins who will say anything for attention.
I know this is from The Daily Fail, but the Tweets are genuine.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eorists-accuse-Tories-terror-attack-link.html
The Sisu generation. Their finest hour was that Sandy Hook was a ****ing false flag. Yep - those poor parents, as if they hadn't suffered enough, are still harrassed by trolls who claim they never had children in the first place.
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