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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

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  2. TootingExcess

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    "As for Brexit, if you want to know what the UK would look like after a Hard Brexit, take a look at France under Hollande, where there was a huge exodus of talent, much of it to the UK."

    Fixed that statement for you Goldie :)
     
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  3. GoldhawkRoad

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    Life under WTO rules, if a deal can't be reached? Not desirable, Tooting, but no one I've seen has done a projection on this. No one's gone beyond the - it's a cliff edge and I can't bear to think about it, approach.
     
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    Do you really think the powers-that-be haven't done an assessment, Goldie? I'm sure it exists - and I'm wondering why it's not in the public domain. The projection shows it's a bad idea, perhaps? If the projection showed otherwise, we'd get to hear about it. I can't think of any other possibilities...
     
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    I think they must have done, BD, but they're not sharing it. Could be it's too awful to look at, or there are too many imponderables to be reliable. The predictions about the economy immediately after a Leave vote all fell flat on their noses after all. For example, if the US gave us a swift and favourable trade deal it would mitigate the effect of downsides to tariffs trading with the EU.
     
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    They have made an assessment, but they haven't written it down.

    David Davis......"you don’t need a piece of paper with numbers on it to have an economic assessment."
     
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    I wish he'd marked my dissertation.
     
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    BBC really going for the Labour jugular today, first Tory Boy Nick Robinson on MacDonnell this morning and now Eddie Mair (who I usually like) on Emily Thornberry asking for ridiculous levels of detail on the minutiae of the Manifesto. Let's hope they do the same to the Tories. I'm betting they will simply get away with 'strong and stable' and anti Corbyn stuff.

    Hidden in the news latest inflation reports, which give us the highest inflation in the EU except for the Baltic States. Still only 2.7%, but rising by 15% a month. Now compound that for a few months.....annual inflation rate for input prices now nearly 17%.
     
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    Everywhere I look, whether it be on here, other social media outlets or the TV, it seems that Corbyn is extremely popular. I actually think that he will win. I mean, everyone seems to like everything about him, so surely he'll win. Right?
     
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    Old people seem to rate May. What they rate about her I don't know.

    I think there's a lot to admire about Corbyn and I like that he's principled even if I don't agree with all those principles. When it comes to it though, apart from the media he's his own worst enemy and he'll be seen as too big a punt for too many. Farron has been a non-entity and UKIP have all but gone so there's a huge swathe of the political spectrum which will back May even if it's as the perceived best of a bad bunch.
     
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    Not a hope in hell, Col. It's Mrs Mays game. But implementing some Labour policies would be helpful.
     
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    But surely................everyone on here hates May......everyone loves Corbyn and all his policies........surely he'll win easily.....surely?
     
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    I think you're losing it Col.
     
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    Not been too many celebrities getting involved so far:

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  15. rangercol

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    Why?
     
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    Corbyn is a committed brexiteer, and we all know May is a remainer- I'm expecting her to lead the counter revolution against a hard brexit once she's won a convincing majority. At least that's what I'm hoping!
     
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    The bizarre posts - maybe it's me. What did you make of the Labour manifesto?
     
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    Wishful thinking. I don't think she was ever really a committed Remainer. She's never really shown she believes in anything much, apart from fox hunting of course.
     
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    I didn't dislike some of it. I suspect the Country would end up even more in debt to pay for it all.

    I don't see what's so bizarre about saying that everyone seems to want Corbyn as PM. I genuinely see it everywhere. I've recently had to join Facebook, as there's a group page on there that I had to join for a show I'm singing in, and it seems everyone on there hates May and loves Corbyn.
    I genuinely think there may be a big upset at the election.......it's what happens these days it seems.
     
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    I think it may be that the people that like Corbyn are quite passionate and vocal about it, whereas May is hard to like but is seen as the stronger leader. No one is going to get very passionate about May. She will undoubtedly win, but I don't think it will be the predicted landslide. Labour's policies are popular, but most people don't see Corbyn as a potential PM.
     
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