She'll be fine Col. People don't trust Corbyn because as principled as he is - he's had too many odd friends over the years, trots, terrorists etc - it overshadows what is a genuine alternative. If Keir Starmer, Alan Johnson or David Milliband had delivered it - she'd be in trouble.
Mmm...................... The problem with coalitions is the real problem of never getting anything done. May is by far and away the best person to negotiate with the EU. Oh and Murray is genuinely World class and deservedly became World No1 in an era of fantastic players.
What makes May better for negotiating than anyone else? I can't say I've noticed anything in her that fills me with confidence on that one.
Just my opinion. From what I've seen and heard of Corbyn and Farron (especially Farron who wants further votes on Brexit), I trust May to be our best chance of a good Brexit deal. I don't expect you to agree as you hate May.
I'm not a fan, no. You are probably right though as she has the experience, albeit she doesn't tend to be terribly successful. I think whoever oversees it, it's going to come down to simple enough choice between restriction of movement and freedom of trade.
The Labour position designed by Keir Starmer is that any deal is better than no deal. That immediately puts the UK at a disadvantage in the negotiations because Juncker can throw any old **** at us, knowing that a Labour government would take it rather than rely on WTO rules. Madness.
That doesn't make sense Goldie - why agree a deal worse than the worse case scenario? No-one would agree to that - and if they did they'd be too busy running QPR.
The worst case scenario is not WTO rules though, Tooting. It's highly undesirable, but from all I have heard, it's manageable. The worst case scenario is that the EU makes us pay the £100 billion it's claiming, and forces uncontrolled immigration on us, together with the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and makes us pay heavily annually for no-tariff access to the Single Market. And believe me, if Juncker thought he could get that for the EU, he would regard it as the crowning achievement of his career. When we negotiate, we have to be prepared to walk away, to get the best deal. That's why I hope to hell the government is preparing for this, even though it may not be shouting about it to raise the EU's hackles. Go into the negotiations talking softly, but carry a big stick.
Brilliant resignation letter from Tory peer the Earl of Limerick......... Dear David, Please take this email as notice of my resignation from the ACP and the Conservative Party. I was recently advised that the three qualities required for a prospective Tory peer were experience, hard work and loyalty. A year ago loyalty meant commitment to remaining in the EU. Now it apparently means commitment to leaving the EU Customs Union. I cannot be loyal to this unmandated and suicidal policy. I remain convinced that a hard Brexit is the greatest mistake this country can ever make, and one which will haunt us for generations to come. We have spent over 40 years building a common market with our EU partners and although the work is far from complete, it has resulted in remarkable economic and political success for the UK and Europe as whole, acting as a magnet first for southern nations such as Spain, Portugal and Greece to transition from dictatorship to democracy, then for the newly liberated countries of eastern Europe to join the club, all of them with strong British encouragement. The large EU country which has benefited most of all is arguably the UK. Our free trade traditions, English language, natural borders and retention of our own currency have given us all the benefits and few of the costs of membership. Notably we have largely escaped the effects from mass immigration from North Africa which are so afflicting southern Europe at present. It makes our present obsession with immigration look petty and selfish, against a backdrop of real misery and crisis in the Middle East and Africa and along its EU borders. Economically we have benefited from becoming the international gateway for foreign investment into Europe. Margaret Thatcher made huge efforts to attract the likes of Honda and Nissan to the UK, turning us over 30 years from the sick man of Europe into one of its leading car exporters. Bankers may not be popular, but the City of London has created great wealth for the south east, and it also contributes at least 11% of the country’s tax income and enables the UK to run a current account deficit and public services it would not otherwise be able to afford. I acknowledge the result of last year’s referendum but I fundamentally disagree that a 52% protest vote, a vote denied to EU nationals living in the UK, gives the government a mandate to do anything more than to negotiate exit terms with the EU and then report back to Parliament and the country as a whole for a further vote once it becomes clear what Brexit really means. What will it mean? It is delusional to think that the EU under its reinvigorated Macron-Merkel Franco-German leadership will do anything other than defend the EU’s own interests, foremost of which is a demonstration that leaving the EU is a costly and disastrous mistake. Juncker was right: the EU will act to ensure that the UK is punished. And they’ll gladly pick up our financial services industry and our other exporting industries rendered uneconomic by the risk of future tariffs. There is simply no way that any possible deal with the EU will be better than the one we have just torn up. The results of hard Brexit or no deal (the most probable outcome considering it took the EU and Canada 8 years to agree a marriage, let alone a divorce and then a new relationship) once the Article 50 two years have expired will include inflation, a rise in the cost of living, collapse of foreign investment, significant job losses not only in the City but across the country, a loss of international influence, and quite likely the secession of Scotland (if the English can ’have their country back’ why should they not too?) and Northern Ireland, which will not be happy about the reimposition of customs and immigration controls along its border with the Republic, which will have better living standards to boot. The United Kingdom will no longer be united. Great Britain will no longer be great. Little Englanders will have got what they wanted: little england. I predict considerable public anger, especially amongst the young who voted overwhelmingly to remain and whose futures are being so casually squandered. And what will this new England be like? Our negotiating power will be feeble. A free trade agreement with China which still has political prisoners and slave labour will flood us with cheap imports and do nothing for protection of UK jobs and standards. A free trade agreement with a protectionist USA will flood us with subsidised food products that would also not meet current UK or EU standards. We shall likely see 30 mile queues towards the Channel Ports as the French reimpose customs inspections in Calais. Apart from fishermen (the only Brexiteers whose views I respect) noone will be better off. If you have bothered to read this far I thank you humbly for your patience and urge you to use your position within a party that looks set to gain a substantial Commons majority to back the voice of common sense and reason, no matter what the pressure from the Whips. Unless there is a crisis resulting in a new general election it seems that the focus of debate will move to within the Tory party. As for me I am joining the Lib Dems in the hope that a grand coalition of the sensible, moderate, non Europhobic and non suicidal public might be created out of the hitherto silent ranks of sensible Tories and sensible Labour supporters who are neither hard Brexiteers nor Corbynistas. We may yet see the creation of a new centre party. For now the Brexit tail is wagging the Tory dog, and I am bowing out. Sincerely, Edmund Limerick"
Few thought he was even a starter, There were many who thought themselves smarter, He had no hate for them Instead ended a LibDem Now that's our kind of martyr!
There once was a Tory called Edmund Who put his career to bedmund When the land voted Leave He just felt bereaved And said we'd be better off deadmund
A Tory upset about Brexit Declared he knew how to fix it So he quit his day job To be with Tim and his God But I doubt Big Mother will brick it.
Col, you think this man is a dick? Or even a bit of a prick? But on this topic I fear If you want us to hear You must express yourself using a limerick!
Very, very, very harsh - thought you could understand and respect principle. One of the die hard magnificent traits of the British society. Is everything getting thrown out with the bath water for the sake of less Poles, Lithuanians and Latvians? You want bollocks That Jason's gonna get it with a very big ache in his cun, cun, cun Feet bigger than the shoes - flip flops in the Summer when the Sun is shining and you don't eat your big jobs man!!!
A Rangers supporter called Colin Was pleased with the EU Ref polling With Goldie and Ellers He said come on fellas Let's stop all this sad Remain bawling
Theresa's arse was always itchin' It made her grumpy and bitchin' Jean Claude said 'I'm your man' 'For I have a plan!' And he buggered her right in the kitchen Slow day at work.
Jezza's fans said he was great Cuddly and sweet and their mate But the Express and The Mail Just willed him to fail To save us from a socialist state
There was a young peer called Ed, With Remain propaganda, he'd been fed, So he joined up with Farron, As yet another bleedin' baron, which we need like a hole in the head
