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General election

  • Conservative

    Votes: 28 57.1%

  • Labour

    Votes: 16 32.7%

  • Libdem

    Votes: 2 4.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Total voters
    49
I don't know why anyone votes Labour anyway. Their last government put more PFI business through the NHS than even Thatcher contemplated and we'll be paying for that for years. Not that it showed up on Gordon Brown's balance sheets until they got kicked out and we started finding "sorry, there's no money left" stickers (yes it was a joke, but it wasn't wrong either). And Gordon's solution to unemployment was to massively expand the state sector, which couldn't possibly have worked in the long term, but by then his and Tony B. Liar's "legacies" would have been secured and it would have been left for the Tories to clear up the mess. Again.

The difference this election is that, for once, Labour's claim that only they can protect the NHS is falling on deaf ears. People aren't daft and they know that (a) Labour ****ed the NHS over big-time with the PFI, (b) money doesn't grow on trees and we need a strong economy to pay for public services like the NHS and (c) the economic omnishambles that Labour left behind will take years to put right. And whatever you say about the Tories, and **** knows they're no angels, they've enabled the private sector to pick up Gordon's excess public sector staff that got the boot in the recession. Finally, if there's a fight looming with the EU we all know who we'd rather have in our corner, given a choice between them and Jezza. Just like most would have picked Thatcher over Michael Foot when the Argies invaded the Falklands.

I live in a constituency that routinely votes Tory (58% of the vote last time out) so my vote won't affect the outcome. But I'll be out there putting X to paper again in June for our MP, even if he is a complete goon!
 
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Sidthemackem said:
I don't know why anyone votes Labour anyway. Their last government put more PFI business through the NHS than even Thatcher contemplated and we'll be paying for that for years. Not that it showed up on Gordon Brown's balance sheets until they got kicked out and we started finding "sorry, there's no money left" stickers (yes it was a joke, but it wasn't wrong either). And Gordon's solution to unemployment was to massively expand the state sector, which couldn't possibly have worked in the long term, but by then his and Tony B. Liar's "legacies" would have been secured and it would have been left for the Tories to clear up the mess. Again.

The difference this election is that, for once, Labour's claim that only they can protect the NHS is falling on deaf ears. People aren't daft and they know that (a) Labour ****ed the NHS over big-time with the PFI, (b) money doesn't grow on trees and we need a strong economy to pay for public services like the NHS and (c) the economic omnishambles that Labour left behind will take years to put right. And whatever you say about the Tories, and **** knows they're no angels, they've enabled the private sector to pick up Gordon's excess public sector staff that got the boot in the recession. Finally, if there's a fight looming with the EU we all know who we'd rather have in our corner, given a choice between them and Jezza. Just like most would have picked Thatcher over Michael Foot when the Argies invaded the Falklands.

I live in a constituency that routinely votes Tory (58% of the vote last time out) so my vote won't affect the outcome. But I'll be out there putting X to paper again in June for our MP, even if he is a complete goon!
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Excellent post mate!
 
Sidthemackem said:
I don't know why anyone votes Labour anyway. Their last government put more PFI business through the NHS than even Thatcher contemplated and we'll be paying for that for years. Not that it showed up on Gordon Brown's balance sheets until they got kicked out and we started finding "sorry, there's no money left" stickers (yes it was a joke, but it wasn't wrong either). And Gordon's solution to unemployment was to massively expand the state sector, which couldn't possibly have worked in the long term, but by then his and Tony B. Liar's "legacies" would have been secured and it would have been left for the Tories to clear up the mess. Again.

The difference this election is that, for once, Labour's claim that only they can protect the NHS is falling on deaf ears. People aren't daft and they know that (a) Labour ****ed the NHS over big-time with the PFI, (b) money doesn't grow on trees and we need a strong economy to pay for public services like the NHS and (c) the economic omnishambles that Labour left behind will take years to put right. And whatever you say about the Tories, and **** knows they're no angels, they've enabled the private sector to pick up Gordon's excess public sector staff that got the boot in the recession. Finally, if there's a fight looming with the EU we all know who we'd rather have in our corner, given a choice between them and Jezza. Just like most would have picked Thatcher over Michael Foot when the Argies invaded the Falklands.

I live in a constituency that routinely votes Tory (58% of the vote last time out) so my vote won't affect the outcome. But I'll be out there putting X to paper again in June for our MP, even if he is a complete goon!
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May is a ****ing joke, easily the worst of the lot, she'd eat her own children for a chance to grab at power. You can't possibly know what you are voting for as her policies will change depending on opinion polls and whatever Murdoch orders her to do. she doesn't give 2 ****s for the country or anyone in it, all she cares about is power. Talks about battling ISIS, then goes abroad to suck the dicks of their financial backers.

As to labour ****ing the NHS, get real, that was Thatcher, who along with Howe, had planned to totally scrap the NHS and free education, and started dismantling it and selling it off, as proven last year when the documents outlining the plan were released.

It also has to be said that it doesn't really matter, the people in control won't change regardless of who gets in power as the people who are really in charge are the unelected civil servants and parliamentary secretaries.
 
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Nostalgic said:
Another sobering thought to ponder is that the NHS is for the many who cannot afford private medicine or health plans. It was only instituted in 1948, but prior to that people had to pay to see the doctor and many just could not afford it. It would people good to read up on the health of Britain prior to the NHS as without it there will be a return of the likes of diptheria, ricketts and many other ailments that were caused by poverty and bad diet. It my take a decade or two but that is when your children and grandchildren will be affected.
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Official figures are showing a rise in diseases such as gout, cholera, whooping cough and malnutrition. Tory's are dragging our health system back to the Victorian age already.
 
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Conspiracy theories seem to play an awfully big part of any election campaign nowadays.

I can't imagine how sad and desperate my life would be if I disturbed myself with such irrelevant crap on a day-to-day basis.

I'd like to think I'd accidentally stumble into a big meat grinder so that I didn't get chance to influence those around me.
 
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Billy the Bastard said:
No mate, you're wrong. They put a stop to the union block vote.
It was the party membership that elected him - not once but twice.
I'm sure RAW can confirm that.
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Spot on mate..Hundreds of thousands (which I believe was a disparate group of left wingers not previously associated with labour) joined the party in order to get and keep him as leader.
 
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MrRAWhite said:
Spot on mate..Hundreds of thousands (which I believe was a desperate group of left wingers not previously associated with labour) joined the party in order to get and keep him as leader.
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Do you feel like your party has been hi-jacked by hippies?
 
Burly Hurley said:
The Tories won't **** up the NHS anymore than any other party mate.

They're just struggling to find an NHS that can work with an ageing population that's also living longer than ever before, medical treatments that are more expensive than ever, drugs that are more expensive to research and develop and keep rising in price, hospitals and community services that can't be fully staffed by Brits anymore, an ageing G.P. population that too few are interested in backing up, increaslingly expensive I.T. systems that can't keep up with changing social, medical and legal statutory legislation...... and so it goes on.

The biggest fault of all the political parties is that not one of them are prepared to admit that theye don't have the answer to an insoluble problem.
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The NHS wasnt set up to do boob jobs, knob extensions, tattoo removal etc. The NHS should be doing what it was set up to do and that was look after and care for all UK citizens regardless of wealth. Tattoo removal, let them pay. Knob extensions let them pay foreigners (who most have put sweet FA into it) let them pay. Thats not difficult thats easy to control. If the NHS is in a heap of debt and not performing why are there so many private companies wanting to get involved? I cannot imagine for one minute its to help the poor. I just wonder if theres lots of cash to be made. There are too many diverse things happening with the NHS now that should never have happened.
 
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commachio1 said:
Anyone hear the interview with that daft labour bint getting questioned over new coppers.

She made a reet **** up of it. <laugh>
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I was watching that on the news as I was eating my tea.
What a ****ing tit she made of herself. <laugh>
The Tories don't need to attack Labour.
They do it all by themselves.
That ****ing DJ tore her a new arsehole, <laugh>
 
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MrRAWhite said:
How on earth that woman ever got to be an MP is beyond me, and now she is a prominent member of the shadow cabinet! Hopefully she will be one of the first casualties once this road crash is over with.
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Hopefully she'll just be shot in the face with a bazooka.
 
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