Off Topic Joshua v Klitschko

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But Joshua isn't yet in his prime.

But you asked if still had work to do. That performance needs to be compared to a prime WK, and on that basis he still has a lot of work to do. He'd have lost easily to a prime Klitschko tonight, how it would go in another 4-5 years depends on how he now develops over these years as he comes into his prime.
 
But you asked if still had work to do. That performance needs to be compared to a prime WK, and on that basis he still has a lot of work to do. He'd have lost easily to a prime Klitschko tonight, how it would go in another 4-5 years depends on how he now develops over these years as he comes into his prime.
I'm not sure you should. Surely you should compare him to an up and coming WK? It's a bit unfair to compare a learning fighter who hasn't had 20 bouts to a world champion in his prime.
 
I'm not sure you should. Surely you should compare him to an up and coming WK? It's a bit unfair to compare a learning fighter who hasn't had 20 bouts to a world champion in his prime.

Why? He's the unified HW champion now, and should use a prime Wlad as a measuring stick on how he needs to improve etc because as it stands, AJ got very lucky tonight against a WK at least 3-4 years past his prime.
 
5th and 11th?

What score are you losing to Man Utd tomorrow? We could do with you conceding 3 or more.

Fancy a draw tomorrow. Utd have a few key injuries, especially in defence and their EL game is on Thursday night.

Saying that, **** knows what sort of side Clement will stick out and if Gylfi start on the wing, we'll lose.
 
Fancy a draw tomorrow. Utd have a few key injuries, especially in defence and their EL game is on Thursday night.

Saying that, **** knows what sort of side Clement will stick out and if Gylfi start on the wing, we'll lose.
I can see you getting a draw.
maybe 1 - 1?
 
He was just made to look better due to inexperience from Joshua. Wladimir was more mobile than at any other time during his career. He provided resistance, but that's all it was.

<laugh>

Wlad is 41 years old and hadn't fought for 18 months.