o/t speeding

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dennisboothstash said:
Got flashed on same stretch of road on way to Manchester airport last week
Definitely weren't speeding so we assumed the cameras were still being set up
TWT I suppose (although I wasn't driving anyway)
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I saw a flash behind me driving back after Saturday's game. Presumed it was for someone else, I was long gone.

Hope they were being tested.
 
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Got stopped on the M18 20 years ago doing 100+ on my bike. I had legal cover with the AA so I met this lawyer on the day at court in Doncaster. Conversation went like this:

Lawyer: which bit of road were you on?
Me: M18 after A1 turn and before M180
Lawyer: Was it a marked car that stopped you?
Me: No.
Lawyer: What kind of car?
Me: Volvo I think.
Lawyer: Colour?
Me: Blue, does this matter?
Lawyer: Well, I drive home that way so I want to watch out for it...

True story. He got me off with 6 points and £140.
 
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Hull City AFC (Ricardo) said:
Was 80mph the speed on your vehicle speedo or on a satnav system?

A satnav gives an accurate measure of your speed (a little bit before it displays it) as it's constantly calculating the time taken to travel a distance and smoothing it to account for errors in location (GPS is only accurate to within 10m), but the one in your vehicle will say you're going faster than you are as it's mechanically calculated. It's a built in safeguard to cover against how the circumference of your wheel changes with temperature/tyre pressure, weight of the vehicle, age of tyres, etc. If you saw the Guy Martin thing where he did the average speed race in the transit van, he had some guy down with all sorts of computers to calculate the speeds he needed to be at certain places on the route. The difference on the vehicle speedo between teatime one day and mid-afternoon the next was something like 4%. I know our vans at work when we're fully loaded it's almost 10%, so when it shows 77 that's when we're doing 70. I've probably done 30,000+miles a year for the last 3 years going through cameras (static and average speed) working to my satnav speed instead, and not had a single ticket from them.

Given that for speeding tickets you get 10% +2mph over the limit before you're charged (I think due to the inaccuracy of speedos), in normal conditions you actually have to be doing 80 to get a ticket on the motorway anyway so I'd be surprised if you got one if the dial said 80. If it's new smart motorway they might have just left the cameras on a lower speed to test them before making them properly live.
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You can also use the permanent roadside speed checks (Askew Ave and Pickering Rd in Hull each have one) to check your speedometer.

Mine often reads as 35mph but the roadside check will read about 31mph.
 
I got caught 60 in a 50 zone,, I didnt know I had been caught and when I,opened the post, I was annoyed at first It was tea time and the local news was on. It featured a report that a young woman had been killed riding a scooter on the same stretch of road. Lesson learnt. Fine and points.
She had been a victim of a hit and run, the driver, got a prison sentence. I drive that same bit of road two or three times a week. 48 miles an hour now.
I speed, but now I max out at 78. I do not know what I would do if I caused someone elses death. But I still wonder why, when the road conditions allow, like at 2 am on an empty motorway the limit stays at 70.
 
Going back to the original question, AFAIK IF you are caught on several cameras it is only one offence. Remember the offence is speeding on a motorway, and not setting off a camera on a motorway. It classes as the same offence detected multiple times.

However, the caveat here is that if you are sent multiple NIPs/S172s you must fill them all in, return them and then argue afterwards. You can still get 6 points for failing to return them even if the alleged offence turns out to be unproven. Ludicrous system! Good luck - I find those 'smart' motorways a bloody menace!
 
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mowds said:
Yep. He was already on 9 points so was bricking it, they were the overhead ones as well, 10pm at night and smart motorway switched off. You might be ok.
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What idiot travels at 90 mph through a smart motorway when they're already on 9 points? He deserved a ban just for being so stupid.
 
BrisbaneTiger said:
When i was at college (Which was a good number of years ago :cry:), the lecturer we had said the speed limit had to be at least +10% because speedos aren't calibrated once they leave the factory. So any conviction for speeding at anything less would be quite easy to challenge as the driver would just need to say i was doing what my speedo said, and there is no legal requirement to get any calibration done on it.

But before anyone goes 77mph in the hope you are 10% under then you may find you are actually over and thus doing a lot more than you think. Saying all that, how would you stand if you could then prove your speedo was showing 30mph under for example. They can't really say you was speeding if you was doing what the speedo said was the right speed.
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I've heard the same thing but it was told it was the speed cameras themselves that can be out by +/- 10%.

Either way you won't get a ticket if you're within that 10%.
 
Hull City AFC (Ricardo) said:
Was 80mph the speed on your vehicle speedo or on a satnav system?

A satnav gives an accurate measure of your speed (a little bit before it displays it) as it's constantly calculating the time taken to travel a distance and smoothing it to account for errors in location (GPS is only accurate to within 10m), but the one in your vehicle will say you're going faster than you are as it's mechanically calculated. It's a built in safeguard to cover against how the circumference of your wheel changes with temperature/tyre pressure, weight of the vehicle, age of tyres, etc. If you saw the Guy Martin thing where he did the average speed race in the transit van, he had some guy down with all sorts of computers to calculate the speeds he needed to be at certain places on the route. The difference on the vehicle speedo between teatime one day and mid-afternoon the next was something like 4%. I know our vans at work when we're fully loaded it's almost 10%, so when it shows 77 that's when we're doing 70. I've probably done 30,000+miles a year for the last 3 years going through cameras (static and average speed) working to my satnav speed instead, and not had a single ticket from them.

Given that for speeding tickets you get 10% +2mph over the limit before you're charged (I think due to the inaccuracy of speedos), in normal conditions you actually have to be doing 80 to get a ticket on the motorway anyway so I'd be surprised if you got one if the dial said 80. If it's new smart motorway they might have just left the cameras on a lower speed to test them before making them properly live.
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I was doing over 80, speedo said about 85 ... To be fair I'm not bothered about that , I'll take the 3 points and the ticket ... My whole confusion is the 3 flashes that followed at 60 , nothing heard yet .. 5 days down - 9 to go ..
 
If you were driving by the average speed cameras at night they have a very bright beam of light covering all three lanes to assist the photiograph - its on all the time at night - as you drive through the beam it feels like a flash - it isnt
 
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charon-the-ferryman said:
If you were driving by the average speed cameras at night they have a very bright beam of light covering all three lanes to assist the photiograph - its on all the time at night - as you drive through the beam it feels like a flash - it isnt
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Thank you , this is the kind of info I have been boring everybody I have talked to this week , trying to find out <laugh>
 
I don't know how people manage to get caught speeding more than once let alone so many times.

Do your brakes not work or are you just never paying any attention?
 
Adaptive cruise control set to 70 on motorways.

Speed limiter set to 20, 30, whatever when I can be arsed to put my foot on the accelerator.


Haven't been caught speeding since I adopted these policies.
 
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Ernie Shackleton said:
Adaptive cruise control set to 70 on motorways.

Speed limiter set to 20, 30, whatever when I can be arsed to put my foot on the accelerator.


Haven't been caught speeding since I adopted these policies.
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I got stopped in Scotland for speeding and the officer who stopped me, but this was with static camera's, said to me set you speed at 79 miles an hour and you wont flash the camera's. I adopted that advise, and never got caught again.
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
I got stopped in Scotland for speeding and the officer who stopped me, but this was with static camera's, said to me set you speed at 79 miles an hour and you wont flash the camera's. I adopted that advise, and never got caught again.
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Great advice John.


Will it work for a 40 zone?
 
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To be honest , I had to travel to Wolverhampton for work on Monday , and due to this incident , I don't think I went above 65 ... And it was the most pleasant journey I've ever had , no need for last minute lane jumps or cutting people up at roundabouts due to wrong lane, has time to read signs etc , and all in all probably added 25 minutes or so to the normal trip ... Reckon I'll be sticking to that from now on, so apologies if you get stuck behind <laugh>
 
I am expecting a letter any day now from a van that was on the bridge over the M74 south bound from Glasgow. Well pissed off as I knew it was there having done that route many times. They're still not doing speed awareness courses in Scotland either - twats.
 
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