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Fair post Rick.
I've seen worse retaliation than Oliveira's only punished by a yellow card and as I said in the MDT last week, why did the fact that he was wrestled to the ground by the Rotherham defender not result in a penalty?????
The standard of refereeing is DIABOLICAL and yet they ask for respect - WHY?????

Spot on JM! I'd say the same about Brady's sending off as well - a yellow, but not a red, IMO. These decisions have serious consequences.
 
Spot on JM! I'd say the same about Brady's sending off as well - a yellow, but not a red, IMO. These decisions have serious consequences.

Indeed they do and I hope we one day see red cards and penalties reviewed by a TMO/Video referee, though not sure it will filter down to below the PL.
 
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Burnley in for Brady for £13m is a rumour. IF this turns out to be true then I think he will go. So that could be Olsson, Brady and Canos on their way out. Pritchard rumour seems strange when he has only been at the club for 6 months but then if AN has agreed to this transfer then anything he does represents his poor judgement over the past year.

Just like Canos
 
Or of course, we could wait and see if it does actually turn out to be true, before adding that to his list of misdemeanours. As far as I can see, Pritchard hasn´t pulled up any trees yet, since he´s been here, and certainly not taken very many of the chances he has had, so IF someone was prepared to pay over the odds for him, and IF Neil was prepared to sanction it, it wouldn´t necessarily be a bad move. Maddison is a much better prospect.

Pritchard's performance have been no more hot & cold than Hoolahan's or Naismiths or Murphy's.
 
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Well now we are down to the nitty gritty! That is correct for medical usage, but I was referring to hypothetical in the sense of an unproven 'hypothesis', which is what I believe CitySlicker was putting forward (ie. Journos are saying that other clubs are interested in Pritchard, which must mean AN wants to flog him, therefore AN is a fool QED).

CitySlicker post read

Burnley in for Brady for £13m is a rumour. IF this turns out to be true then I think he will go. So that could be Olsson, Brady and Canos on their way out. Pritchard rumour seems strange when he has only been at the club for 6 months but then if AN has agreed to this transfer then anything he does represents his poor judgement over the past year.

Can't really see whats wrong with CS's post. AN's failings are considerable on many levels, there is no need to invent any, not that CS did, CS was only commenting on rumours, which seems reasonable bearing in mind this is a forum. CS is right in highlighting that when a manager buys a players as a good prospect and then sells him 6 months later, having hardly played him, this represents poor judgement in buying the player in the first place. I don't think there's much doubt that Canos is up for sale. Pritchard may or may not be.
 
As I pointed out in the post before CitySlicker's, AN categorically denied that there had been any approaches about Pritchard in his Press Conference, so let's believe the desperate journo rumours rather than our own manager. We really are in 'hypothetical' territory here.

Yep and AN also said that we were better suited to playing PL teams, so I think its fair to say that the gap between what he says and reality is quiet considerable.
 
I can understand that Cromer, as well you know, but my concern about how our season fell away badly in November doesn't convince me that it's all AN's fault. Some responsibility rests with him to be sure, but I don't see how Oliveira's stupid red rage is in any way his fault. He had warned the players to not be drawn into provocation and yet it happened. It's too easy to put the blame on the manager and say that everything is his fault. It all goes quiet when we blow away Derby and then comes back big time when something goes wrong at Rotherham. I don't know which way it will go in the end, but criticism should at least be based on judgement, not emotion.

Well of course it's not all AN's fault, but he is the manager and the lion's share of the fault is his, yes the player have their part to play, but lets not forget who decides who plays and doesn't. Players regularly play poorly for one manager and then become fantastic for another manager, which suggests to me that even when players are playing badly it can still be the managers fault.

Clearly AN can not be blamed for Oliveira's red card last week, but this is hardly the reason why our performances have been generally poor for the last 12 months, nor the reasons why we went further downhill in November.
 
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Yep and AN also said that we were better suited to playing PL teams, so I think its fair to say that the gap between what he says and reality is quiet considerable.
Presumably because the pace of the game and work rate required is not quite so frantic in the PL?
Poor darlings, why on earth didn't they factor all of that in when they had a very good chance of making it happen - last season? <doh>
You can't say you dislike the hustle and bustle of the championship and often having to play twice a week, poor dears, when it was your own bloody ineptitude that put you there in the first place <grr>
 
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I really can't understand why we are do desperate to offload players before we can even consider bringing someone in!? Have we just come up from league 1?! Were the Premiership years a boring nightmare?
 
Agreed ! - but of that list, Pritchard is likely to fetch the best price, if the question of a sale ever arose.

Reply, but surely he'd fetch the best price, because he is the best prospect going forward, in which case shouldn't he be the one to keep and develop.
 
Pritchard's performance have been no more hot & cold than Hoolahan's or Naismiths or Murphy's.

Creative players' form will always vary, especially in the physicality of the Championship which is aimed at frustrating creativity. Pritchard is the natural successor to Wes (who, as you say, is also inconsistent), but unlike Wes he can play and shoot with either foot, which makes him more valuable. Murphy's main weapon is pace, but he needs to improve his crossing (not surprising given he's only 21). Of the 4, Murphy and Naismith are more consistent, given the latter's ability to exploit space and score and Jacob's excellent pace and goalscoring as well, though unfortunately Jacob's goals were mostly early in the season.

My complaint about CS's post is that a false rumour (there has been no approach for Pritchard) is used yet again to slag off AN as if it is going to happen. Until there is something more than a lazy journo rumour which has been denied by both Burnley and ourselves let's stick to what is more likely to happen.
 
My complaint about CS's post is that a false rumour (there has been no approach for Pritchard) is used yet again to slag off AN as if it is going to happen.
Perfectly valid and fair comment, Rick.
We all know, or should do by now, that the tabloid press love nothing more than stirring up a hot-bed of angst among fans with ill thought out back pages linking 'x' with 'y' with no substance to it. <ok>
Devil's advocate, though - if there has been an approach, until he i's are dotted and t's crossed, both clubs are always in firm denial.
AP is a good player, has bags of potential and is being very sparingly used in a team that is under-performing horrendously. What's not to be interested in, if you're a Premier League team with money in the bank?
 
My complaint about CS's post is that a false rumour (there has been no approach for Pritchard) is used yet again to slag off AN as if it is going to happen. Until there is something more than a lazy journo rumour which has been denied by both Burnley and ourselves let's stick to what is more likely to happen.

I agree that it's not fair to slag off AN on the back of rumours and to be honest even if Pritchard was sold this would not even fit into the top 10 sticks with which to beat AN with.
 
Of the 4, Murphy and Naismith are more consistent, given the latter's ability to exploit space and score and Jacob's excellent pace and goalscoring as well, though unfortunately Jacob's goals were mostly early in the season.

I agree about Murphy, I just wish we would play to his strengths and get the ball forward much quicker and play it into space for him to run onto. Josh Murphy was making this point to one of his team mates during the Southampton game and was clearly frustrated.