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Evington said:
Why are you excusing how **** the owner is?
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I'm not, I'm stating facts. Ehab is an absolute tool but in him saying we aren't a selling club, he's correct we aren't. And regarding this transfer window, it was always going to take time to get players because MS had to assess what we had first before he knew what we needed. Again just facts.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Normally 'selling club' refers to a club that regularly sells off its biggest assets, or a club which regularly manages to buy low and sell high and we've been neither of those under the Allams. The concern with many, is that this is no longer the case, but we'll find out in under two weeks.
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Okay thanks for responding; I agree with your straightforward view of what a selling club is. I also agree that our club has always been a long way from being a selling club, just as EA said - one of the few things he has said I agree with.

At any time, with any owner, we must always be wary of what the future holds, history has taught us that.

It sounds like a cracking 4.5yr deal for Jake. I very much doubt he has gone kicking and screaming, so good luck to him we stuck by him and I think he paid that back - time to move on.

I see we've also brought the RB in who looks decent, although I don't know the score on his fitness.

We have had a lopsided squad for nearly two seasons, OLM, and I can see why Silva is trying to sort it. We have much more attacking potential and looking to add alternatives to our defence. I would imagine Jake wasn't the first player Silva wanted away, but he was the one someone wanted for a decent return.

I just hope people don't label us a selling club, simply because we sold a player of value to fund rebuilding a badly bought squad.
 
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Fez said:
Okay thanks for responding; I agree with your straightforward view of what a selling club is. I also agree that our club has always been a long way from being a selling club, just as EA said - one of the few things he has said I agree with.

At any time, with any owner, we must always be wary of what the future holds, history has taught us that.

It sounds like a cracking 4.5yr deal for Jake. I very much doubt he has gone kicking and screaming, so good luck to him we stuck by him and I think he paid that back - time to move on.

I see we've also brought the RB in who looks decent, although I don't know the score on his fitness.

We have had a lopsided squad for nearly two seasons, OLM, and I can see why Silva is trying to sort it. We have much more attacking potential and looking to add alternatives to our defence. I would imagine Jake wasn't the first player Silva wanted away, but he was the one someone wanted for a decent return.

I just hope people don't label us a selling club, simply because we sold a player of value to fund rebuilding a badly bought squad.
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THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Highly-rated Wigan striker Sam Cosgrove set for loan move to North Ferriby United.

Lyon have signed Memphis Depay from Manchester United for an initial £16m rising to £21.7m in add-ons.

Aston Villa have made a bid worth in the region of £4m for Barnsley defender James Bree.

Huddersfield Town have signed German striker Collin Quaner from Union Berlin on a three-and-a-half-year contract.

Former Everton, Manchester City and Aston Villa defender Joleon Lescott is training with Sunderland.
 
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Jesus H.... can we move on from the selling club crap?

We all apparently view it differently but in my eyes a selling club is a Southampton or an Atalanta, where they have a famed youth academy and scouting network that brings players through for peanuts and then shift them on to the 'Big Boys' for £10m+ profit.

When do we ever sell anyone for £10m profit?
 
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**Edit** You'll struggle to buy a replacement that brings as much to the team as Livermore for £10m.
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PLT said:
The bold bit is really all that matters here.
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It really isn't.

If you have other players who do a good job and you can adequately cover any positions Jake might play, then you would, perhaps, be considered astute if you sell that one player and bring in another player(s) for positions where you cannot adequately cover any positions and you have no cover. We definitely fall into that scenario, so let's see how astute Silva is.
 
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Fez said:
It really isn't.

If you have other players who do a good job and you can adequately cover any positions Jake might play, then you would, perhaps, be considered astute if you sell that one player and bring in another player(s) for positions where you cannot adequately cover any positions and you have no cover. We definitely fall into that scenario, so let's see how astute Silva is.
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Silva's said this morning that Jake will need to be replaced, he's concentrating on getting wingers in first, but Jake will be replaced.
 
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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Silva's words at the press conference appear to mark as "bollocks" the suggestions that Jake wasn't part of his plans, the money was needed so we'll be able to fill other positions & we have adequate cover in that area.

His words appear to suggest we seized the opportunity to cash in on one of our better assets, as selling clubs do.
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Do you play a lot of Cludeo, SCB? Because that's one hell of a supposition and I call you on it! :emoticon-0126-nerd:
 
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dennisboothstash said:
We haven't been a selling club at all
Whether we become one we'll know by the end of this window

...actually "selling club" is an irrelevant term...what I really mean is that we'll know whether Ehab is cutting his losses and trying to get as much cash paid back from his loan by letting expensive assets go, and by taking out loans to pay some back too. No idea whether that is the case or now, but we'll know soon enough.
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To be fair, the criticism started as 'taking his cash out' and then morphed into being a selling club'.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Sunderland manager David Moyes says any new signings will struggle to make a significant impact on his team's fortunes after admitting his transfer budget is "limited with a big L"...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38693182
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I think they are in a much worse position then us! They have a manager who isn't cutting it. They have a squad that isn't cutting it and now appear to be accepting that good enough change isn't going to happen!

Our changes may or may not work but at least we aren't just lying down and accepting it. I'd be very worried if I was a Sunderland fan.
 
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Fez said:
WE knew we didn't have a big budget, didn't we? We knew we needed attack and defense, as a minimum; didn't we? We knew we would have to sell, didn't we? So no scoop here then. :emoticon-0118-yawn:
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That was my thoughts.

Brilliant journalism from Captain Obvious there.

Although in his defence they seem to be revelations for some.
 
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