He'll get some serious stick if he plays against us which unfortunately for him will be sooner rather than later. Personally don't give a **** about him anymore he's on the decline as a footballer. Virgil and Toby have made him look better than he actually is.
£3.50 and Ralph gets to go on the next series of The Apprentice.Can't be bothered to trawl back through the thread to find it, but what is the supposed fee?
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark
It's been hard enough for us fans watching the club sell all of our best players at the end of every season - but imagine how bloody annoying it must have been for the captain of the actual frickin team. To be honest I have sympathy for Fonte after this summer, because the board have taken the piss quite frankly. Previous summers I could understand, but this one was a joke.
Jose is a Saints legend, third most important player we've had in the last 25 years behind Le Tiss (1) and Lambert (2). Seems the board was unable to satisfy his ambitions. So he asked to leave. Then the board got upset and turned it into a mess. A bit embarrassing really.
But of course I will just fall in line with the usual football fan delusional view; "**** off Jose u greedy ****er, ooh-argh!"
Mmmm... nah, sod that. Good luck Jose!!
NopeIt's been hard enough for us fans watching the club sell all of our best players at the end of every season - but imagine how bloody annoying it must have been for the captain of the actual frickin team. To be honest I have sympathy for Fonte after this summer, because the board have taken the piss quite frankly. Previous summers I could understand, but this one was a joke.
Jose is a Saints legend, third most important player we've had in the last 25 years behind Le Tiss (1) and Lambert (2). Seems the board was unable to satisfy his ambitions. So he asked to leave. Then the board got upset and turned it into a mess. A bit embarrassing really.
But of course I will just fall in line with the usual football fan delusional view; "**** off Jose u greedy ****er, ooh-argh!"
Mmmm... nah, sod that. Good luck Jose!!
But really really wrongThat's a really great post, Black.
...I don't like Reed etc, but that is because of another reason. Fonte's agent is the person in the wrong here.
I trust the person I talk to more then a random guy having a rant. Also Mendes is the most powerful agent in the world, we would have no chance against him. The sad thing is once a player/agent wants to leave that is that. All clubs can do is delay it for a bit or get the highest price.I'm neither gonna agree nor disagree with this, but you are most likely correct. Agents are **** personified. However a good board with ambition should be able to null the threat of any agent, no matter how predatory he may be. It's not like the agent spends 24 hours a day with the player, whispering in his ear about 'what might be' etc. They're most likely on some super yacht in the Med drinking champagne. The club however, is with the player every day. If they can't reassure him and give him positive vibes, then the fault partly lies with them.
Also, I'm not really sure how my point can be "wrong". The only person who could say if I'm right or wrong is Fonte himself, because I'm discussing his inner emotions, and no matter who your source is, I doubt they are close enough to Jose to know his true feelings.
The fact is, we have lost our star player, manager, and now captain, in just over 6 months. If the board are not partly to blame for this shambles then who is?!
Oh yeah right, let's just play the 'agent' card again.
We could have kept all three if we had offered more money. Simple as that. Some people would argue against the club doing this, but I wouldn't. They all deserved to be given more. And anyone who says we couldn't afford it, well, if we finish 7-8 places below 6th in May, then that's £10m we would have 'lost' due to being so stingy (yes I know there's no guarantees we would have finished 6th again, but u get my point).
It's been hard enough for us fans watching the club sell all of our best players at the end of every season - but imagine how bloody annoying it must have been for the captain of the actual frickin team. To be honest I have sympathy for Fonte after this summer, because the board have taken the piss quite frankly. Previous summers I could understand, but this one was a joke.
Jose is a Saints legend, third most important player we've had in the last 25 years behind Le Tiss (1) and Lambert (2). Seems the board was unable to satisfy his ambitions. So he asked to leave. Then the board got upset and turned it into a mess. A bit embarrassing really.
But of course I will just fall in line with the usual football fan delusional view; "**** off Jose u greedy ****er, ooh-argh!"
Mmmm... nah, sod that. Good luck Jose!!
I trust the person I talk to more then a random guy having a rant. Also Mendes is the most powerful agent in the world, we would have no chance against him. The sad thing is once a player/agent wants to leave that is that. All clubs can do is delay it for a bit or get the highest price.
As I have said before we are a stepping stone club. Kat and the others want us to be a club that doesn't rely on the owner pumping money in to clear debts etc. Player sales will always happen when a club is run this way. It's why I myself don't get connected to any player, it's easier that way.
Am I saying making the club run itself with no big backing is the right way? Nope, but I am saying you either accept it as how Kat runs things or you are going to moan everytime a player moves on.
Koeman:
Played the club a bit, but then got a crazy offer he couldn't turn down. I have no problem with that.
Players:
Mane: Used us as a stepping stone and I have no problem with that.
Pelle: Good offer for a player his age.
Fonte: Got his head messed with by his super agent. 100% agent ****ing up a players head.
Wanyama: Has a dick head as a agent and that is 100% true. But Wanyama wanted to move to a bigger club, so didn't sign a new contract. I have no problem with that
Lallana: Acted a twat and fed the press lies, that is the only part I got annoyed with, him wanting to move to a bigger club is fine by me. Same with Lovren.
Etc etc.
People need to realise what kind of club we are. Maybe it will stop some fans going mad when a player leaves.
As long as we replace the players we sell with decent/ good players (we will never be able to replace players with players of the same standard) then I am happy. The board have done well so far, so deserve to be trusted.
If at the end of the season I see it as a **** up. Then I will change my mind.
It's been hard enough for us fans watching the club sell all of our best players at the end of every season - but imagine how bloody annoying it must have been for the captain of the actual frickin team. To be honest I have sympathy for Fonte after this summer, because the board have taken the piss quite frankly. Previous summers I could understand, but this one was a joke.
Jose is a Saints legend, third most important player we've had in the last 25 years behind Le Tiss (1) and Lambert (2). Seems the board was unable to satisfy his ambitions. So he asked to leave. Then the board got upset and turned it into a mess. A bit embarrassing really.
But of course I will just fall in line with the usual football fan delusional view; "**** off Jose u greedy ****er, ooh-argh!"
Mmmm... nah, sod that. Good luck Jose!!
That's a really great post, Black.
Nor am I but he is getting to the stage where he needs a superior partner at the back.Ah right, that must have been why he was picked for the Euros, got found out and failed miserably...
Disappointed yes but I'm not bitter and certainly can't muster the strength to be angry about it.
With the Wet Spam fans, especially in the mood they are in at the moment, Fonte will not be given any leaway and they will turn on him very quickly once they have stopped fighting between themselves.Whatever the details/truth/spin about this paticular transfer (if it happens, funny if he failed the medical) I just wish it was done.
If it is WHU then looking at how underwhelmed many online fans seem at Jose's arrival it could be a very strange experience for him. No legend status there to colour their opinion of performance.