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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Seems like you tell us your dreams about every week and then say you are done for a month or so, but then you are back on every day anyway! You got to be addicted to this site as the rest of us. See you tomorrow!
     
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    Not without major reforms it won't.
     
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    SNP mulls putting candidates up in England

    I think that's a great idea, we could finally be rid of them! :)
     
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  4. Stroller

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    No posts on this thread for a long time. I suppose it should be easy to understand why - politics is over, the right has won. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia are all back on the table, their proponents emboldened by Brexit and Trump. The far-right are on the march once more, raised up by those who think that 'political correctness' is a phrase that should be pronounced with gritted teeth and a dirty-smell expression. **** empathy and compassion, it's back to the 1930s.
     
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    LOL
     
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    I like having this thread, Strolls, because the "bubble" of people reading and replying is made up of people interested in Rangers, and therefore a bit more mixed when it comes to views on political ideas and events. Sometimes, I feel that people might decide to support a point of view like they'd support a football team, which isn't how I go about it, but we've all got a vote, so I'm interested in how people choose to use it.
     
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  7. TheBigDipper

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    So, the government is suggesting that the gaps in Social Care funding can be partially closed by allowing local authorities to raise a levy via Council Tax for this purpose. Once again, they're stepping away from their responsibilities and trying to make it someone else's problem. It won't solve the problem, and it won't cause the government any political damage in their voting heartlands. Here's why...

    "Rich" authorities have wealthier residents. "Poor" authorities have poorer residents. Both authorities might raise an extra 2% for extra Social Care. "Rich" will be able to raise more money through their 2% than "Poor". Yet "Poor" is likely to have more people who have lower incomes and more residents who will need Social Care support because they cannot pay for it themselves. The disparity between the rich area and the poor area will increase.

    Politically, the government may not care too much, as the "rich" areas tend to vote for them and will not be feeling the same pain as the "poor" areas, who tend to vote for the other side.
     
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  8. Sooperhoop

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    I think in this particular area it is the average person who is squeezed. The richest can afford whatever they want, the poorest are in the 'benefits net' but Mr and Mrs Average who have prudently saved and bought their own homes looking for a better life in their latter years are the ones who end up losing out whether by increased levies or, when in need of social care, having to eventually sell their home when savings run out...
     
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  9. sb_73

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    I've been away for 10 days, not been keeping up. Which is very refreshing. All looks the same to me, heard the news driving up from Heathrow this morning and it could have been a repeat.
     
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  10. rangercol

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    I think it's far more likely that this thread went cold because it has become a left wing talking shop between yourself, Stan, Oslo and Big Dipper.

    There's only so much ****ing patronising, condescending, holier than thou, right on, know-it-all, liberal, complete and utter bollocks delivered from high up on your collective moral high ground that people can be bothered to read!
     
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  11. sb_73

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    Welcome back Col, hope you are feeling better.
     
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  12. QPR Oslo

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  13. Stroller

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    I've missed you, Col.
     
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  14. GoldhawkRoad

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    Welcome back, Col! :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  15. GoldhawkRoad

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    For those looking for a decent current affairs debate, Dateline London is well worth a look, on BBC 24 News lunchtime Saturdays. Worth putting on Repeat Record. It's hosted by Gavin Estler and has 4 guests, generally one each from the Middle East, UK, Europe and US. Today's was a good debate and may be on catch up.
     
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  16. sb_73

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    Just for Col, Uncle Fester, sorry Sajid Javid, plans to make all public officials, including elected ones, swear an oath to uphold 'British values' which include, apparently, tolerance, respect for other's beliefs, democracy, freedom of speech, and respect for the law. This will help Bangladeshi women learn English and integrate. These values do not apply to 'citizens of nowhere', those who challenge the government through the courts, anybody who can be deemed as being members of the 'elite' (excluding the government) etc etc. As Admiral Lord West, a man who can be called a patriot without insult, remarked, swearing an oath to British values is not very British. Javid is the Communities Secretary intent on upsetting Goldie by encouraging building on green belt land - except it seems in his own Worcestershire constituency, where he has twice opposed such plans. But there is nothing in his list of British values that says don't be hypocritical, so that's ok.

    Meanwhile Farage on the radio whining about being called a populist, and slagging off everyone who didn't vote for Brexit. But he does want to act as a 'bridge' between the British government and Trump. I'd happily walk all over him, the populist bastard.
     
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  17. Sooperhoop

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    That's a really effective and significant step forward by Fester, they'll be swearing an oath on what? Almost as ludicrous as that stupid c*nt Sadiq Kan't forcing all private hire drivers (including English ones) to take an English test costing £180 to prove they can 'communicate' with their passengers, many of whom can't speak English. There are many black cab drivers who would fail that one yet they are exempt. I sometimes think our politicians should be certified...
     
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    Farage is probably the most successful politician of his generation.
    Your post demonstrates perfectly why I can't be arsed much with this board anymore.
    Classic wind up in the same mould as Swords.
     
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  19. sb_73

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    Farage has stood for Parliament 7 times and never got close to election. You have a low bar for success Col.

    It's only a wind up if you allow yourself to be wound up.
     
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