Off Topic You've done very well so you WILL be punished

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  1. makemdan

    makemdan Well-Known Member

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    Take up of vaccinations in the North East have been much higher than the rest of the country so next week we're only getting half the allocation and the other half will be distributed elsewhere. Thanks a lot you bunch of ****ing pig twats
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I think you'll find you're wrong mate.

    I distinctly remember Mr Johnson saying he'd level things up and look after the NE.
     
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  3. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Had my 1st one 3 weeks ago. Should have had the 2nd one today. Cancelled until March.
     
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    Snaggletooth Well-Known Member

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    Thing is mate, thats not what you consented to. Its ****e isn't it, you're basically taking part in a clinical trial.
     
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  5. rowley

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    This is a national effort, not a local race. If the vaccine has rolled out well here and elsewhere great. But it is reasonable that other parts of the country, which might very well have greater logistical challenges, should get the chance to catch up.

    It is easy to big this up into some us v them thing but it is not that at all. It was created in Oxford and is made in Wales among other places, none of which are up here. The vaccine programme is in fact, going by worldwide metrics, an astounding success already and is looking to continue that way.

    If you'd like an idea of how bad it could be, look over the water to the people of Europe who have been treat with disgraceful contempt by the EU's bureaucratic tyranny. Individual nations were coerced into allowing the EU commission organise everything. Result; far too little Pfizer ordered, and ordered far too late. Refusal of offer by Pfizer of 300m more doses, then too late asking for them. Late approval for the same.

    No approval yet for the Oxford vaccine, despite this being made locally now in many parts of the world. Maybe next week they say, maybe not. Germany has been told it faces an "investigation" because it has eventually ordered on it's own account another 30m doses of a vaccine created by a part German company, to protect German people! Other countries are now trying to do the same, but the clock is against them as the delivery time grows longer every day, and they cannot yet use the Oxford jab yet.

    Nothing is perfect in the handling of a pandemic. Here and elsewhere mistakes of different kinds have been made. They are inevitable. But whatever mistakes have been made here, the procurement programme of the vaccines and the decisions surrounding it, it's distribution and use are light years ahead of most of the world..

    It's not bad here. Really it isn't.
     
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  6. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree. If I had had it one day earlier I would have got it. I am cynical and only got it to get on a plane for holidays. Your right though I feel like a guinea pig now.
     
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    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Gil.
    Had my Senyca (spelling) on 21stDec
    Told I'd get my second within four weeks which was cancelled
    I work with GPs covering out of hours when surgeries are closed and today I was told me that first vaccination gives me a certain immunity and as long as I get the second within 12 weeks then nowt to worry about.
    The government in their rush to look good have come out with a lot of misinformation but I stopped listening to them months ago and am happy to take it from horses mouth so to speak.
    I've worked in amongst sick people and GPs looking after them since covid struck and have been lucky so far to have stayed healthy so I thank my lucky stars.
     
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  8. makemdan

    makemdan Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes I forgot about Mr Pantsonfire the truthsayer
     
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  9. Gatesy

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    And to think this could have been us if not for Brexit...

    Good post mate.
     
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  10. rowley

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    Actually, in or out of the EU, there was no compunction to join in the EU's procurement programme as health matters were not within their official competence. That said the political pressure would have been great to toe the line. It was great enough in June when the gov announced that the UK would do it's own buying , sourcing and administering. Scorn, derision and worse was poured onto the gov by the BBC, The Guardian, Sir Kier Starmer and most of the Labour Party, saying that lives were being put at risk for political reasons.

    In fact the UK did speak with the EU on the matter, but were told that all decisions must be given up to the EU. It was at that point the decision was made.
     
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  11. makemdan

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    I don't believe it's a race at all, neither local nor national. If some areas are not achieving target inoculation numbers robbing Peter to pay Paul won't help as they should already be receiving the number of inoculations to enable targets to be met: taking supplies from other areas won't change anything if people don't take up the invitation and it could result in vaccines being junked if there's insufficient storage available. What it means in real terms is that despite being given an assurance that a predefined number of jabs will be delivered next week some inoculation centres will now have their allocation halved. As it happens all of these centres are in the North East but I'm sure this is purely coincidental.
     
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  12. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I get mine tomorrow at 18:40 it’s 12 weeks apart now mate not 21 days
     
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  13. Saff

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    Yep. The North East is way ahead of the rest of the country <ok>
     
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    <applause>
     
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  15. Smiler

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    They have never been tested 12 weeks apart, the clinical trials stated you need the second jab around 3 weeks after the first, not 12 weeks. We are all being made into guinea pigs because the government think they know better than clinical trials and best practice guidance. Pfizer have stated they only tested the vaccines efficacy when given 21 days apart, they have no idea how well it will work given 12 weeks apart and they made the bloody stuff.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is in it together. As long as each area gets a fair, equitable share overall.

    Non-issue for me.
     
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  17. polyphemus

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    Credit where it's due, and there has been precious little to give credit for so far with the way this problem has been handled, The Government has done brilliantly in getting The UK so far, so quickly, wth the vaccinations.

    They placed mass orders for a number of vaccines that were not ready or proven, (a similar procedure to the one they used for obtaining PPE, but this time it's worked), and as a Country we have hit the ground running.
    I read a couple of weeks ago that in the same week that England had vaccinated over half a million people, France where they have/had some odd rules about civil rights, had done under five hundred.

    And the most impressive thing for me has been the efficiency of the place I attended for my jab.
    Whoever was responsible for the background organisation for this deserves a huge bonus.
     
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  18. Unlucky Alf

    Unlucky Alf Well-Known Member

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    In an article regarding the diverson of vaccines the daily telegraph reckons

    "meanwhile some GP's in the south east were accused of holding up the rollout by refusing to administer the pfizer jab and in some cases demanding more money for administering the vaccine. In one part of East Sussex just one surgery was vaccinating elderly people in an area covering 200 square miles"
     
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  19. polyphemus

    polyphemus Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the same position as you, but I'm grateful to have been given my first jab, thus getting some protection.
    It seems that by delaying the second, millions of others can get this same protections as me that much earlier, thus saving lives on a grand scale.

    I don't see a downside to this.
     
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  20. Gordon Armstrong

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    Poly, man, you're not supposed to see the good bits :emoticon-0145-shake

    The government doesn't deserve praise for doing something well . . . . they should just be pilloried for their mistakes :emoticon-0148-yes:

    It was announced on BBC Breakfast this morning that Brexit has been brilliant for Nissan Sunderland (and 1,000s of people in the north east), despite all of the scaremongering, but Boris shouldn't be praised for doing a bloody good job . . . . indeed there has been no mention of it on this board, not a ****ing word <doh>
     
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