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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Well pardon me all over the place <ok>
     
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  2. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Not our industry? Tell that to the tens of thousands of British workers they're employing. Surely thats what matters.

    A 28 year blink of an eye? While being as successful, and employing as many, as at any time in the UK's car industry history?
     
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  3. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Whats up really, did you have shares in British Leyland Tobes? #closettory :bandit:
     
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    The current motor industry in the Uk is nothing more than assembly plants, they're not true manufacturing plants as only about a third of the components are sourced in this country.

    You're wrong about the numbers employed, in the early 70's this country MANUFACTURED nearly 2m cars a year, we assembled less than half that at the point the recession hit.

    If you can't grasp the simple fact that foreign industry that has no loyalty to these shores and could move their assembly plants at the drop of a hat without fear of moral, social or nationalist repercussions, then you're a Tory without hope mate
     
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  5. Tobes

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    No lad, I've been involved in the industry for nearly 30 years.

    #boom
     
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  6. Jürgenmeiʃter

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    Not sure chief bucket holder qualifies you to state working in the industry

    Amazing places though, hoovered inside and polished + full clean on the outside for £ 20

    Its like an F1 pitstop for the working man, incredible

    #sponge
     
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  7. Tobes

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    Very droll
     
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    Not that im discrediting the job of course, the ques for these places are brill!
     
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    Rem this Sierra ofmy Grandads, brings back happy memories

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    And this, still got a pic ofme pretending to drive it on mygrandads knee

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    MK 3 I think
     
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  11. My old man had one of those when I was a very young nipper, I think I was about four or five years old
     
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  12. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    America make or buy bigger cars than anywhere in the world. Ford made in US are quite bigger.
    I do not know what they think about fuel?.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    American cars are far smaller these days. The days of the sideboard are gone.

    They like 'compacts' these days, stuff like the VW Jetta does really well over there.

    As for fuel when you're paying just over £2 per gallon, it's less relevant than over here. Believe it or not they still moan about the cost lol.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I agree... though compact is a general term.

    THere are a shed load of hyundais in USA. why.. the are cheap as ****

    they have a lot of sedans what are no bigger than a car here but are all autos so are lumps.

    But there are still the massive pick ups and 4x4". I got a small jeep. well i was told it was the small one. I pulled up behind a bmw 4x4". the bmw looked tiny infront of me.

    they are amazing at whining about price of gas no question.

    In general I'd agree that the cars over there are no great shakes or bigger now.

    its about $3 per gallon and they whined like a stuck pig when it was $4. . where i was i nthe snow it rots cars to death o they really buy cheap cars as within 3 years the salt they throw about to open roads kills cars fast.
     
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  15. Tobes

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    To tie that in with the other thread, personal lease is now massive in the States with advert after advert for cars with lease payments of $170-299 a month.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    and they can waddle in and negotiate too. they companies will give them all sorts of deals to walk out with a muscle car. they don't care as long as they make commission.

    I knew a guy who was working o na production line and cutting grass to make ends meet driving around in a big mustang.

    it was funny.
     
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    Semantics!

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news/north-east-nissan-plant-helping-8048426

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news/mapped-nissans-supply-chain-huge-7254559

    A successful industry (albeit foreign) employs record number of British workers and has lasted (and will last) longer than a failing British company like Leyland. At the end of the day, thems the facts mate. Ideally ofcourse we would all like it to be a British company but they failed and these companies have raced ahead and continue to do so. Less anger more pragmatism <ok>
     
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  18. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    UNION contributed to damage done to British Industries, while I am not against membership of Trade Union, sometime they are not helpful. Businesses prefer to operate where total cost are lower, one of the reasons some companies are moving their production line or
    call centre outside Uk where it's going to cost them a proportion what it's going to cost them in UK.
    Strikes and secondary picketing had not been helpful to British Industries.
    NISSAN came to Britain after securing assurances from the Government.
     
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  19. Tobes

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    It's not semantics at all.

    The piece you've posted merely states the facts that I'd already highlighted, i.e. That the UK produce 500k less cars than they did in the early 70's. It speaks about the supply chain but doesn't mention the fact that only 30% of components used in the total Uk car assembly business are sourced from this country.

    Nissan is a great success story for the north East but it doesn't alter the fact that the demise of the British car industry was a crying shame, and a deliberate and willlfiul political act. I've given you the details of what happens (and has always happened) in Germany and France and yet you're still failing to comprehend the difference and risk of Marques that currently assemble here, compared to British owned businesses that should be thriving in the current climate, but Thatcher watched as the British motor industry died on its arse. I'm not saying the industry wasn't also the architect of its own downfall, but it could and should have been saved.
     
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  20. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Conservative only care about making money for individuals not employment of common people. Look at numbers of rich people who benefited when Leyland was dismantled.
     
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