So..., IF the PL accept this proposal, surely they can't still complain about the Saudis showing games outside of the PL deal with Sky. Part of the small print that Man U and Liverpool have pushed is to have 8 live games per club (each season) that they can 'sell' directly to overseas distributors, so the clubs pocket the money directly. If anything, it might help encourage the takeover to go through.
Not if they can also just veto that takeover No competitive premier league club would ever allow the PIF to invest in a team.
Its clearly a power play by the established big clubs and as such should be voted down by the rest of the PL clubs. However there are some parts of it that I think are actually worth considering: 1) abandon the parachute payments or significantly reduce the value of these. These seriously skew the finances for the Championship and make it easier for relegated clubs to get promoted again 2) increased share to EFL is good but I think it should be structured so that the lower leagues get a bigger share of the pot, not the Championship Think they should also scrap FFP but ensure that any excess money put into a club : 1) cannot come from selling the ground to the owner 2) cannot be a loan from the owner Essentially it comes from the owners pocket so that it doesn't come back to haunt the club later.
You have to laugh I think. Its right in your face this. "We accept something needs to be done about how the wealth is distributed because clubs are on the brink. However in order for us to help out, we will need control of the game in this country, and we will need to create a La Liga situation where only certain clubs can compete at the top. Furthermore we'd like the power to prevent anybody else joining our little club. If you agree to this the small clubs will be helped. And yes you'd be right in thinking we are ****ing over every PL outside of the six and effectively taking the competition out of the game. We know you all loved the Leicester story, but we really hated it." I can see why the Americans have a draft and salary cap. They simply recognised that human greed takes over in the end so you need mechanisms to stop monopolisation and maintain competitiveness. I kinda respect the big 6 owners in a way. At least they are being quite open about their skullduggery and telling you quite openly they are looking to get full control. Parry is the best - he is basically saying yes that's what they are doing and you should be grateful for it too. They either just can't see their absolute ****housery, or more likely just don't care. Yes giving 25% of PL income to the EFL clubs is massive. So just give it to them without conditions you absolute set of ****s. I hope those behind this get syphilis and die horribly. No better than our government using the current malaise over covid to try and push this through.
Could be a blessing in disguise guys, the big boys **** off to some European super league and the rest of us get football back OR this gets pushed through and a lot of fans end up going to support a grassroots/lower league club, cancel their football subscriptions across the board instead saving the money to go and watch matches locally providing vital income for those clubs and local communities. The other thing I've seen since this was announced is that it has woken a lot of journalists and fans up to the corruption at the top of the game, hopefully it become untenable for the current incumbent and we get shot of them swiftly.
Sooner folk turn their back on football the better. I'd sooner the other clubs fall on their sword rather than accept **** like this.
Gary Neville backing the idea. There's going to be lite of support for this..basically all the EFL clubs and the 9 prem clubs The other 11 will get ****ed over, but that's fine apparently
To be fair to Neville and others, they are simply saying there is a lot of good in it, but loads would need discussed. And Neville will back anything that sees Man U return to the top table. There is loads of good in it - 25% of PL money going to the EFL clubs would be fantastic. It would be the right thing to do for the good of the game. To use it as a means to leverage something else is disgusting. But not really surprising. For that reason I agree with you, I'd like to see it knocked on the head completely. I don't want to enter into negotiation with people who saw that as a viable starting point. This is classic bully boy tactics. They are no better than a bunch of ****ing shylocks. Spot an issue, offer a solution in return for something else. Make your starting point so ridiculous so that when you reach an agreement after discussion, the other party thinks they've reached something mutual, but in actual fact it was just the difference between leaving the last two inches out of your arse. You've still been ****ed. This is how we got into this situation in the first place, the FA bending over and handing over the keys to the kingdom to the PL. Don't ****ing do it, don't discuss it, don't entertain the thing at all. As soon as you do, you are getting ****ed.
Domestic football would be much better for it. However things would need put in place to ensure it never happens again. i.e. the new top 6 don't get similar designs. Lets not make this about the top six, because we all know any of the owners would do exactly the same given the chance. Everyone has lost complete sight of what the word sport means. The best thing that could happen is the PL and the top six **** off and we start again.
West Ham have already said their against it as one of the nine, and they'd need 14 votes. It ain't happening how it's currently proposed.
Come on the EFL getting 25% of the PL money is a good thing. That should happen instantly. It should always have been the case that the stellar product should support the lower levels right down to grassroot. The only reason it didn't happen is we sold out to the PL, who set themselves up as a separate entity to the rest of football in this country, and set about creaming it all for themselves like a set of ****s. I find it disgusting they are dangling this money carrot and saying "take it, we only need this in return". The people behind it should disemboweled by your good self using a spoon. Its the ****ing audacity of it too.
Why only 25%? The Pl have given scraps previously to keep the unwashed happy. Now they want to give a few scraps more and its thought to be a good thing. Personally struggling with that one. To make it even worse the offer is that not only on the basis that all the turkeys vote for Christmas but that they stuff and baste themselves as well. Sheer exploitation by the greedy few.
I mean that percentage can go up for me. The problem isn't the percentages etc for me. The problem is we have clubs and this PL entity dictating this. This is the biggest sport in this country. Its of national interest. The FA and Government should be fully involved in how money deriving from professional football is distributed. The single biggest issue this all stems from is having a private entity like the PL having control of such a major sporting institution. It was an error of judgement that needs corrected but its become very difficult to do. Basically football should be nationalised and centrally controlled in some way. Oh hang on we'd simply be taking it off one set of corrupt bastards (the PL and their owners) and giving it to another corrupt set of bastards (the government and the FA) - ah **** it I give up
Is it though? Where’s that slice coming from exactly? Clue, it’s not them. It’d come from them scraping parachute payments and them reducing the amount the bottom half of the PL league get in TV money by over half, that’s where, The proposal would see the winners get £160m and the bottom club around £40-50m which is currently over £100m. The extra cash would only end up being pissed away on higher wages and transfer fees anyway tbh - see the PL for details.
