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----HistoryRepeating---- said:
It seems like players that are your heartbeat to the team just get sold on - is there something behind the scenes that players don't like or are they moving purely for money?

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An interesting question.
I wonder how Suarez Gerrez & euro/sterling would answer? <whistle>
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Suarez is without question one of the best players in the world so realistically he should be playing at one of the best clubs in world football- which he is. We made a 52mil profit on that <ok>

Not quite sure why you included Gerrard :huh:

Sterling is simply motivated by money, shame really. He'll probably sit on the bench once they realise how inconsistent he is. He'll be collecting 200k though, so I guess he'll be happy enough <laugh>

In my opinion Liverpool handled the Sterling and Suarez deals very well. Held out and got top dollar for them, the minute they wanted to leave they were done at Liverpool - you simply can't keep players that don't want to play. So all in all, I'm happy how they both turned out. Granted Suarez is irreplaceable, but Sterling certainly isn't. 49mil is daylight robbery, lets be honest.
 
Pelletron said:
As an aside, I don;t believe Delph is putting his love for Villa aside for anything. He just wants to play football, so if anyone else but Man City and Chelsea came along, I reckon he'd be off in a shot. There's no loyalty, as it is of course self-interest. But I have no doubt he isn't doing it out of loyalty.

Same with JayRod, really. Said he stayed out of respect for the club looking after him during his injury. More likely out of respect for the fact no club would pay what we'd ask for a player who no one knows is going to be at the level he was previously, and he needed some form of security fast. If it was genuine respect for the club, why didn't he sign six months ago?

Not judging either of them, by the way. As you'd expect most ambitious players to behave while on their journey to get as high up the ladder as possible.
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I'd agree with that for sure. He had his head turned but luckily wasn't daft enough to go to City. To be honest it could be a good signing for you guys - very good player and would slot nicely into your team with Wanyama (sp?). Lets face it he's better off playing for you guys than he is Villa. I wouldn't know what wages he's on though and whether you could match them? But he's a player that would slot in nicely at St Mary's.
 
----HistoryRepeating---- said:
Not quite sure why you included Gerrard
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The club wanted him to stay, he wanted out, that's surely relevant.
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He stayed for so many years, I'm certain he didn't leave for the money - otherwise he would have gone to Chelsea or Real Madrid years ago. He was aging and knew he couldn't keep going in the PL so decided a move to the MLS would be best.

No way did he move because of the money <laugh>
 
I take it this History Repeating guy is your board idiot?

Perhaps read the thread before acting like a jumped up prick.
 
Skylarker* said:
Thanks for the replies lads. I'm actually quite interested in the 'happenings' at Southampton, more than any other club in the PL (other than Liverpool). I appreciate your model, such as the excellent academy, and believe a lot of the 'bigger' clubs could learn a lot from what you do.

I just think it's a shame that money speaks so much in football these day, because the reality is if you'd kept some of the players that have left in the last couple of seasons I believe you'd be challenging for top 4 - or even higher. That's some achievement for a club like Sothampton (no offense meant).

I really do hope your scouts work their magic, like last time. Saying that the signings you've made so far look promising tbh.

The reality is you're a fairly new club with regards to mainstay in the PL, and you've done incredibly well to completely cement your standing in the PL.

I'm certainly looking forward to visiting next season to watch you play and see how your new guys settle in. I must say you're one of the most exciting teams to watch, and trust me I've traveled many miles to watch various games.

I do actually lurk on your board a fair bit and it's clear you're a passionate bunch - good job <ok>
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Reading your first post was like reading Martin Samuels again.

I'm always concerned when people admit to being lurkers.
 
Beefy said:
Yep, I believe Wanyama will be gone end of this season if he plays as well as last one due to him coming here under Cortese. I just don't agree Cortese was good for the off field stuff.
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True that. I get the impression that Corteses plan was to just pump money into the club until it was standing tall near the summit of the BPL. He didnt seem to care were the money came from and probably figured the extra income once at the top would allow us to back-pay on debts and even the books.

The new regime are obviously going for a more sustainable gradual approach, taking some hits along the way but ending up healthier for it. They are now working on a plan to grow the 'brand' on all fronts rather than Cortese who undoubtedly thought that would just follow with success/big names.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed all the extra work put in by the media department to make their work funny/eye catching. We've had media all over the world write up stories about 'Dr Barry Gale' and that kid trying to get a date last season. Thats the kind of thing that wouldn't have happened under Cortese but is getting us substantially more recognition and a growing interest from the UK and overseas.
 
It's a risk/reward balance. It's almost like a government deciding whether to spend their way to the top or take an approach of more austerity.
 
I wouldn't discount the extra media work and positive coverage, and the club definitely has more of an idea how it wants to portray itself now but one thing I'd say about the different approaches is that the "Cortese method" is reasonably proven. Chelsea and Man City (plus PSG to a lesser extent) have shown that building/buying success on the pitch leads to commercial success off the pitch so it's something of a tried and tested method, although not foolproof by any means. On the other hand nobody (as far as I know) has ever done what it appears Southampton FC want to do now and I'm not sure it's even possible. Mind you, as hotbovril said earlier, FFP possibly/probably means it's now not possible to do what Chelsea and Man City did.
 
Just wrote a piece that addresses this topic, and a bit more, for a column I'm doing for Shoot! magazine. It goes live tomorrow, so I'll share it then and see what you guys make of it. I hope you find it agreeable!
 
- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
Just wrote a piece that addresses this topic, and a bit more, for a column I'm doing for Shoot! magazine. It goes live tomorrow, so I'll share it then and see what you guys make of it. I hope you find it agreeable!
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You'll be my hero if you're in shoot! That was my football upbringing of the 70s!!

I still have a scrap book with articles about Saints with shoot! Clippings.
 
fatletiss said:
You'll be my hero if you're in shoot! That was my football upbringing of the 70s!!

I still have a scrap book with articles about Saints with shoot! Clippings.
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Ha! :)

I was approached a couple of months ago to write a fortnightly Saints column for them, so that's something new I'll be doing for the new season. Looking forward to seeing the first one go out, although I know it may well unsettle some of the fanbase, somewhat!
 
I'm less concerned about losing players to Man U and Chelsea etc. Losing player's to Tottenham hurts because I think we were as good as they were for the last two seasons and that they are only a "big club" because they say they are a big club. They haven't displayed any recent evidence to convince me that they are any more likely to get CL football than we are next season.
 
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- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
Here we are. My debut for Shoot! magazine - why Saints should delight, not deflate, at the club's status as a 'showcase club'.

http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/news/southampton-show-they-are-one-step-ahead-again/
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Good article, well written. I also feel that we gain by being seen as a club for career development....means that we may not keep players for long, but we attract talented ambitious players to keep our dreams alive. Has to better than our journeyman and ageing stars period that came before the Leihberr takeover.
 
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