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  1. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Overhead view of the cockpit of a bomber. Photo taken from the observation coupla on the upper wing.
     
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    Zeppelin buster.....
    When British First World War pilots were asked to destroy German Zeppelins, they did not turn to guns - but a giant exploding dart.
    British biplane pilots would fly above the giant airships - filled with highly flammable hydrogen - lean over the side of the cockpit and drop the darts on top of them.
    The projectile was designed to puncture the canvas skin of the balloon, drop inside and then explode, igniting the hydrogen.
    Zeppelins successfully targeted would explode in a ball flames - similar to the Hindenburg disaster in 1937 - meaning the pilots had to make a quick escape if they were to avoid going down with the airship.
    The Aerial Anti Zeppelin Ranken Exploding Dart was invented by Commander Francis Ranken of the Royal Navy in 1915 and was dropped from a height of up to 700ft, but between 300ft and 400ft was the optimum altitude to attack the low-flying German airships.
    They were either dropped individually or in clusters
     
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    Veterans of four different wars from the same town of Geary, Oklahoma, photo taken in the 1940s.
    From top left to bottom left, clockwise:
    Pearl Perry “Jack” Johnson – 1923-1997, born in Davis, Oklahoma. World War Two veteran. Registered for the draft in June 1942.
    Hilyeard H “Red” Young – 1895-1965. Born in Texas, World War One veteran, owned a barber shop in 1940.
    Andrew Jackson Everist, Sr. 1849-1945, born in Iowa, served in the Illinois 57th Regiment for the Union in 1864-1865 at the age of 15-16. The medal he’s wearing is the Gettysburg 75th Reunion Veteran’s Medal, but it was given to both Union and Confederate vets.
    Oscar P Ruth – 1872-1961. Born in Illinois, Spanish-American War veteran. Self-employed electrician in 1940.
     
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    mate that if effing disgusting , thank you for sharing that with us, and i agree with your earlier post about the top brass, you only find out about atrocities committed by our top brass if you hunt it down otherwise i feel it is hidden in plain sight, so you will brush past it
     
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    Not sure if that is a Ranken Dart or just a simple flechette as there seems to be no grapnel mechanism to trigger the incendiary-explosive core

    https://www.bmmhs.org/destroying-zeppelins-article-no-1/
     
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    No idea, just learning myself and passing the info on. Apologies if its inaccurate. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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    thank you for your time invested bringing us this information quite enjoyed it, whilst visiting relatives in France i toured Bitches fortress very informative, maybe you would be interested

    http://www.fortified-places.com/bitche.html
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...s://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOhkXRq6

    there are loads of maginot line forts nearby as well

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/F...82db70d8c43bfa8a!8m2!3d49.0591069!4d7.4300029

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    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.


    Lest we forget
     
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    In a foreign field he lay
    Lonely soldier, unknown grave
    On his dying words he prays
    Tell the world of Paschendale

    Relive all that he's been through
    Last communion of his soul
    Rust your bullets with his tears
    Let me tell you 'bout his years

    Laying low in a blood filled trench
    Kill time 'til my very own death
    On my face I can feel the falling rain
    Never see my friends again

    In the smoke, in the mud and lead
    Smell the fear and the feeling of dread
    Soon be time to go over the wall
    Rapid fire and end of us all

    Whistles, shouts and more gun fire
    Lifeless bodies hang on barbed wire
    Battlefield nothing but a bloody tomb
    Be reunited with my dead friends soon

    Many soldiers eighteen years
    Drown in mud, no more tears
    Surely a war no-one can win
    Killing time about to begin

    Home, far away
    From the war, a chance to live again
    Home, far away
    But the war, no chance to live again

    The bodies of ours and our foes
    The sea of death it overflows
    In no man's land, God only knows
    Into jaws of death we go

    Crucified as if on a cross
    Allied troops they mourn their loss
    German war propaganda machine
    Such before has never been seen

    Swear I heard the angels cry
    Pray to god no more may die
    So that people know the truth
    Tell the tale of Paschendale

    Cruelty has a human heart
    Every man does play his part
    Terror of the men we kill
    The human heart is hungry still

    I stand my ground for the very last time
    Gun is ready as I stand in line
    Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
    Rush of blood and over we go

    Blood is falling like the rain
    Its crimson cloak unveils again
    The sound of guns can't hide their shame
    And so we die on Paschendale

    Dodging shrapnel and barbed wire
    Running straight at cannon fire
    Running blind as I hold my breath
    Say a prayer symphony of death

    As we charge the enemy lines
    A burst of fire and we go down
    I choke a cry but no-one hears
    Feel the blood go down my throat

    Home, far away
    From the war, a chance to live again
    Home, far away
    But the war, no chance to live again

    See my spirit on the wind
    Across the lines, beyond the hill
    Friend and foe will meet again
    Those who died at Paschendale
     
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    Really interesting stuff on here, great pics and stories well done all who’s posted
     
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    Has there ever been a piece of music which stirs the emotions/reflectiveness of people more than the Last Post
     
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    One of the stories that gets me the most from WW1 is that of captain DL Martin of the Devons. He’d been a maths teacher before the war and he used scale models and trigonometry to prove conclusively that an agreed line of attack on the first day of the Somme would end with him and his men being cut down by a particular German machine gun post. He showed his superior officers but was told “sorry, you must attack”. They all knew what they were walking in to but they still went over the top and were wiped out. They were buried together in a mass grave above which a sign was erected: “The Devonshires held this trench, they hold it still.”
     
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    One of the few positives to have come out of WW1 came from one of the most horrific of weapons - mustard gas.

    Its ability to damage DNA wasnt known at the time, but this action led to its use, in tiny doses, as the first chemotherapy drug - still used today for a few, specific, cancers.

    It was also involved in the first ever cure of someone who's cancer had spread to other parts of the body.

    https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/history-of-cancer/cancer-treatment-chemo.html
     
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    By 1916 special incendiary bullets were used by the RFC, but only against Baloons.

    Pilots were forbiden to use these against other aircraft, or ground targets and on misions against Baloons where they carried these, they were required to carry with them, writen orders confirming their targets.

    (The first Pilot to shoot down a Zepelin over UK territory was awarded The VC.
    He was stood down soon afterwards but got himself back on the active list.
    He survived the War, but not by long.
    He died on leave, from Spanish Flue, om 31st December 1918).
     
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    Been a few times to the menin gate when it’s being played mate, unbelievable atmosphere. Seems to generate more of the emotions then hearing it on tele. Totally agree with you
     
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