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like i said Bri, Gus decided to keep him out. not Dick i didn't say Dicks rationale was clear to us. i said he clearly decided not to play him. but like i said. i do not know why. he changed his mind, putting a young so i can't help you with that one. only Dick can. by stating mig was 'established' in the first team when he completed his degree i meant he was playing regularly. established was the incorrect term. he got his chance because the manager had no other choice due to Gordon and Westwood being injured. yeah he managed fine, but he didn't get his big break during the last weeks of his finals in a team threatened with relegation.
I've always known that. I've never blamed dick for it, I just don't buy his contradictory excuse that doesn't even make sense that's all. As for last line, you're implying that think Watmore should be playing at the moment. Sick of saying I've accepted Dicks decision. Just not his excuse as he contradicted himself. I said this over a week ago on the Watmore thread I'm just going round and round having the same conversation but with a different person each time I'm a Watmore fan, I've seen a good bit of him this season through highlights and some live games, I understand entirely why he's not getting his chance but don't as accept Dick's excuse as he contradicted himself big style. That doesn't mean I don't accept his decision, just the excuse. I think Gus was wrong to block a loan for him at the start of the season, lad has shown form all season, he was lied to by Gus and it's cost the lad a years development, I feel for him, Gus **** on him. That's my stance fella.
ok, gotcha. anyway, snap. time for bed! Dick's excuses will have to remain in his heavily accented ether for now....
I would certainly be happy with Dick as DOF. I have no faith in Congerton Why would Clement leave his working relationship with Anchelotti to come to us though?
Two things, what has Congerton done wrong? Clement may be ambitious and want to branch into management and would welcome working under another top manager in English football for maybe a year or longer. Both unknown quantities for me.
The squad that started this season was weaker than the one that finished last season. He was - with Poyet - responsible for player recruitment Also, I think I would rather see someone with a better managerial career as our DoF I also think Margaret Byrne should fall on her sword, and someone with more football knowledge should be ceo. Decision making has been shocking at the top level for years
I kind of wanted to say this but wasn't sure I should. Reminds me of a conversation in the Godfather... "You're a great consiglieri in a time of peace Tom, one of the best... But we're going to war." Or words of that effect. Dick may well prove to be an outstanding "Fire fighter" as did MoN, Gus and the mad Italian. We need someone to build now. A long term coach who can get behind Congerton's vision for the club. If Dick can do that great. If he won't work with him... Not so much.
I think we need a coach who'll get behind Congerton. By all accounts Gus made his life hell and the job he did suffered for it. Byrne... I have no idea what she actually does so wouldn't like to call for her head.
I'm not sure she should. Our increase in commercial revenue shows away from the football pitch the club is doing very well. Our problems for me are much more football related and there's nothing anywhere to suggest Ellis has turned to Byrne in footballing matters.
FD, you put in the most diplomatic terms what I was just about exploding on. Thank you for saving my blushes later. Football men want to put their own section right before interfering in other areas of the club. I doubt if SAFC's finance and business sections are constantly around the bottom of the league.
Ellis and her make the decisions on everything though. She is not the commercial manager who looks after the off the field stuff. That is Gary Hutchins, and the impact on that is a drop in the pond anyway For me, the major decisions are manager selection and transfer policy. The club is shocking on both of these resulting in deterioration in player quality and year on year financial losses. I will be absolutely amazed if she is not heavily involved in both of these fundamentals. Obviously Short is not going to sack himself so I think he needs someone else next to him to put more football knowledge between his ears
Behave. She's not the director of football either. You can't deny her credit for good things off the pitch because of a commercial director then blame her for bad things on the pitch despite having a Director of football. Credit her for both or not at all. Or simply acknowledge you've no idea why we should sack her. Agenda much? Show me where her decisions have effected the football aspect of the club and I'd be more inclined to agree with you. Without it I won't be calling to sack people when I've no idea why. Short brought Di Fanti in, Not Byrne, fact, and Di Fanti brought in PDC & Gus, fact. Short Brought Congerton in and Congerton brought Dick in, Fact. The DoF sets the Transfer policy Fact. The Chairman sets the budgets as head of the Company, fact. Give me something solid to blame her for and I'll say fair dos, but it just looks like you're stumbling in the dark blindly looking for someone to blame. He's got a football person by the way, he hired him himself, he's called Lee Congerton. The football is one part of this business that is made up as many parts. Probably why we have a Lawyer as CEO and not an ex football manager or player.
So she does nothing then? Presumably in your career you have come across sign-offs where the people at the top authorise decisions? Well that's her and Ellis. Also, if their subordinates are not advising them correctly then they are complicit as they appoint their subordinates. My view differs from yours as you believe that one person makes one decision. Agenda against her - wrong. I know people who speak highly of her, but the continuing sinking of the Club now leads me to think otherwise. Anyway, we have a difference of opinion on this, and I am not going to retaliate in the personal way appear to find acceptable
Just want some proof before calling for people's head that's all. Reasonable. I've not been personal with you, I've suggested an agenda based on your refusal to credit her for good things that have happened while you blame her for bad things. It didn't add up in any way to me. But you've told me that's wrong, fair enough. But even that's not personal so not sure what you're getting at. I simply disagree with calling for someone head on a personal assumption. Like you said, difference of opinion. I prefer substance, you act on suspicion.
Difficult to get substance though without having the minutes to the Board meetings. Do you have copies? My view - and yes, it is my view - is that when a company makes mistake after mistake then you look at the top, rather than the (departed) individuals. Since sacking Bruce, what have we got right? Concerts and a fun fair in the car park don't cut it for me. We are a football Club first and foremost.
Nope, that's why I'm not calling for her head. If she's responsible for any of our on pitch problems I'm sure Ellis has a better idea of what that is than either of us, so if you're right I'm sure Short will be letting her go. That will be substance enough for me. In the mean time I'll not call for her head blindly as I know I'm not informed enough to form an accurate view
I get what you're saying about not calling for her head yet, and without knowing about the chain of hierarchy at the club you're probably right on that score. My view is that the club is a perennial under-achiever and that being the case, most company's investors would be looking for a change at the top to re-invigorate from the top down. The fact that ES (or the banks) haven't apparently done so suggests that they're happy with her. BUT SOME BUGGERS TO BLAME!!!! Sorry, had to get that off my chest!
