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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The RDBD, May 16, 2018.

  1. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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  3. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations......I hope.

    Recently, being England captain hasn't been a great thing to have on your C.V.

    Last week I heard 3 'experts' pontificating upon how wise Southgate was not to appoint a captain....

    "Sharing the burden keeps any one player from being too pressurised or spending too much time fulfilling media obligations. Gareth is very wise...you can see that he's absorbed the lessons of past failures......it's an excellent decision. England are finally getting it right with Gareth"

    No, getting the bollocks out of the way pre-WC would have been wise. This is a traditional FA clusterfuck. Put the decision off for 2 years and then do what you say you weren't going to do in the first place. Probably to appease the old sponsors. <laugh>

    Full of **** doesn't cover the experts, either.
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Headline from The Liverpool Echo....

    Jordan Henderson denied possible special place in history after Harry Kane named England captain instead of Liverpool skipper

    <laugh>
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    FTFY
     
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  6. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Classic Mouserati. :)
     
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    I knew that I've got Italian, Irish, French and Croatian ancestry, reading this I mush have Spanish as well <laugh>
     
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  8. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Speaks volumes on the English game that there is no
    defender/MF in Southgates' squad who has the
    experience of being / gravitas to act as captain for
    something as important as the WC finals.
     
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    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    It depends how you look at a captain, on talent Kane is obviously first and tbh Henderson is probably near the bottom of the list. However for his lack of ability Henderson does make up for in leadership and a very very good captain. I guess it depends on how Southgate sees his team and who plays.
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    In other news.......The selection of Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Kieran Trippier and Danny Rose has denied possible places in history to Sadio Mane, Emre Can, Ragan Klavan and Andrew Robertson.
     
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  11. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I actually agree with them and Southgate. We've had a circus around Rooney ahead of the last 2 tournaments with him being captain so despite not being good enough he still got shoehorned into the team. I hope we go back to sharing the armband around after the tournament, no point 2 years being wasted if one player gets injured, isn't good enough or doesn't fit into the best 11.
     
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  12. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I agree to an extent but appointing him now just means we're going to do this in the immediate run-up and throughout the tournament, rather than get it out of the way. "Was appointing Kane so late a mistake?"

    We should have stuck to rotating the armband or appoint someone after the last tournament and have done with it. This seems to be the worst of both worlds.....unless his original choice was Joe Hart? Actually, that makes as much sense as anything to do with England. He wanted Joe Hart....or Mo Salah.
     
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  13. It also says a lot about the character of modern players in general that the decent role models are so few and far between.

    Harry wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for skipper on the pitch, but as an example to youngsters in his on and offield behaviour he's right up there. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    I think that you need a captain who is going to be certain of playing because of his play, not because he is captain. Henderson definitely does not fall into that category. The only other one certain to play is Kyle Walker.
     
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    Q1. Are you from Liverpool? Yes? Fail.
     
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  18. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Does it really matter who is captain?

    Will England be any better whether Cahill, Henderson, Kane or whoever where's the armband?

    Sometimes a captain can make a difference in football, but I don't see anyone in this England squad who fits the bill.
    Kane qualifies by being the best player, but he's no Roy Keane.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    You're not getting this, are you? It's not about who IS the captain. It's about...

    • WHO ISN'T;
    • WHY THEY AREN'T;
    • and WHOSE FAULT IT IS.
    Henderson has been "denied [a] possible special place in history".

    Do please try to keep up. <doh>
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    Of course it does. You want someone who can :

    1. see the big picture regarding your/opposition play,
    in real time

    2. rally the team when things are not going your way


    IMHO GK and forwards do not do #1, and are usually
    too far away from where the main on-pitch action is
    to do #2. Hence my opinion that neither should ever be
    the on-pitch captain.
     
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