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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Onionman, Nov 15, 2020.
Dances with Wolves?
Don’t get all your knicker twisting over Theo not throwing a wobbler. A miss happens...I’d rather a player got over it and was ready to play on. Standing there being cross is pure indulgence and could offer an advantage to the opposition.
It was Just an observation Fran and not even about his performance or the moment of the miss, but how his reaction post match said something to me. Not even knicker twisting. It would appear however that my comment wasn’t warmly received.
Djenepo needs to stop changing his hair style. I swear everytime he plays he has a different style, not just slightly but completely different. Its almost like his focus on his hair, and not the football he plays. Its like Sansom
Nope as in Delilah, and we all know what happened to him after a hair cut
Remember when Gaston Ramirez had those corn rows?
Didn't notice that
I do understand the point. As a kid, I could not speak to my mates for hours if one missed a sitter in a coats-for-goals kickabout. But two things to reflect on are that these modern pro players are trained to speak to the media (Charlie Austin missed the lessons) and also his age. He is clearly no-one's fool and has matured into a reflective guy. You may be too young to recall the tirade from certain quarters when Lineker simply shrugged and said it was 'only a game' after the semi-final defeat at the World Cup in 1990. I can't believe Lineker wasn't as competitive as any player, and that the game didn't hurt him. I had wept like a child with my young sons at the end of the shoot-out, and was grateful to the boys' hero for putting it into perspective. Maybe Walcott is aware that there are lots of things to get angry about, but missing a goal comes low on the list. Or maybe he doesn't give a ****, which is the fundamental basis of your point. I'll take the former. I respect your view, just don't agree on this occasion.
Onwards and upwards.
I keep thinking I can walk away from this and then I get drawn in again. A character flaw, but one that’s difficult to fight. It’s because it feels like Theo’s being criticised for something like ‘a lack of moral fibre’. But our character is just part of what we are and that’s that. Ronaldo is lucky to have a potent mix of physical and mental attributes that have enabled him to become the best player in the world ... possibly. Theo has different attributes and the calmness we’d see is part of him, without it he might actually have been a worse player
I’m definitely getting my coat now as I’m starting to annoy myself
I prefer Walker-Peter and the Wolf.
Reading what you have just written makes me think that you actually agree with me and then the others who went on to discuss the progress of Theo.
This got blown out of all proportion. People went on the defence of Theo (fair enough) and then made posts that were on a tangent (that happens) and read more into and made assumptions of my view that overreached my original comment and didn’t represent what I was saying (for example Fran above talks about his reaction at the point of missing the chance; others talked about “people make mistakes” yet I wasn’t on about the action of the miss, but my interpretation of Theo’s reaction afterwards). People then seemed to only see this and ignored the praise I’d given him for an excellent performance. That’s fine though.
People can disagree or not, no issue there, but from my experience of sport and professional life, his reaction after the game was a little disappointing to me, that’s all. As Saints fans, many got wrapped up in the elation of the joy he is feeling being a Saint. I felt that too, but also felt it acceptable to point out the other.
Somebody said once that it is not the ability or effort or attitude that goes into 99% of an action that matters, but that final 1% that makes the difference.... or something similar. Not many have that final 1%
You’ve just become my favourite poster if you think there is even a possibility I am too young to remember that. A far greater chance that I’m old enough to have forgotten
‘‘Twas just a difference of opinion fats old chap.
For sure. Nobody fell out or got abused (if you ignore the bruises and cuts from the pelting I took ) although one of our Norvern Saints did appear to chat me up with his inference of my young age
It was an enjoyable discussion
I agree with what Fats has said and I didn’t take it as a criticism of Theo, just that I was surprised too that he didn’t say anything about his miss (which was just one of those things - happens to everyone, even Sir Rickie and Saintly Danny). I think he was so happy and relieved that the team got a point thanks to his goal (and Alex) and wanted to express his pleasure at being back at Saints. I rather wish (when that scouse prat asked him what it was like playing at Southampton after playing for “big teams”) he’d said “well I played for Arsenal, who are pretty big, but Everton - they’re not a bigger club than Southampton”, but I think he came over a with humility and sheer enjoyment again at playing for Saints.
I imagine he went home and kicked everything afterwards though - as most sportsmen would do. I know I would have done!
And that he’d added that “both those clubs are below us in the table right now, actually.”
We have to talk about something when we're so bloomin good
We're 99% in agreement, that'll do
Chat you up? You southern tosser! Better now?
I thought it was an interesting discussion. I think your point about that final 1% is a pertinent one. Maradona was clearly a gifted player, but there have been some very good 'manufactured' ones over the years. Kevin Keegan was a case in point, and more recently David Beckham and his plagiarist - our very own JWP. Walcott isn't Maradona, but he is clearly a naturally gifted player. People like him can be frustrating, and I do understand your annoyance with him. Bit like having a kid in your class who is a 'natural' at your subject but you can't persuade them to put in the graft to get the A grade.
Jeez. Didn't want to post on this again. That's it, over and out!