Nothing on Twitter, hope they're wrong. Poor poor man and his family. He is, by all accounts, a very lovely man.
I've only just seen this and find it sickening. I hope those responsible are found and brought to justice. I have no idea what goes on in the heads of such people except that it often seems fuelled by alcohol and the notion that there's something admirable about violent hatred of other football teams and their fans. If I thought the game in general was heading back towards the excesses of the past I could very quickly fall out of love with it. My thought are with the man's family.
When I sat down to put a thread together for this game, I was nervous about the final score. Of course I was hoping for a win and wondered if our side could put together a decent performance against one of the better sides in the division. A bit of tension, hopefully some goals, a great atmosphere and a match that we would remember. Unfortunately what happened in the game became of little importance when we heard of the horrific goings on after the game. As far as I am concerned the game is forgotten, but there are many questions that need addressing over the behaviour and comments of so called fans. I was appalled to read one Charlton fan say "good" as he hated Watford FC. Just how many sick people are there who can express such a thought, and how can a football club make it clear that such talk cannot be tolerated? Maybe such talk should result in a ground ban.
That is unbelievable, I hate Ipswich as much as you all hate L*t*n, but I refuse to believe that any of us would go down that road. I feel that that sort of statement deserves to be a punishable crime!
That is utterly disgusting. Thankfully prats like that are outnumbered massively by the decent majority who have expressed sadness and support for this poor bloke and his family.
This might shed some light on Fernando Forestieri's actions... vine.co/v/OEwLtzWvDKw - I can't hang the link properly, you'll have to put https:// in before vine... Best wishes to the man assaulted, and I sincerely hope the rumour that he has died as Markthehorn reports is not true.
https://vine.co/v/OEwLtzWvDKw Well, that shows fairly conclusively that the hand was raised into the face. That is a red card offence all day long, any pitch, anywhere. I still think he was wrong to go writhing on the ground, that was ridiculous.
Just spoken to another mate who has walking back to the town and it kicked off in front of him. Unfortunately the police have not come out of this with any credit - they allowed a few of the local youths to carry on mouthing off whilst the poor man was out cold on the floor, plus it took 30 mins for the ambulance to arrive and they just bundled the poor man onto a back-board. I suspect with the Villa v WBA match just kicking off and Brum supporters arriving back at New Street after the Derby game, the local Plod were very stretched and our game was probably considered a lower risk.
I think you might be right about our game having lower risk value w_y, but reading around it would seem that Wolves rarely have many police at their games. I don't know if that is because they don't want to pay for them or they think that the stewards at the ground are enough. It states that the incident was 1/2 mile away from the ground, so maybe normal policing without cost should be expected. Leeds actually won a court case against their local force on the grounds that they should not have to pay for special measures away from the ground.
Since my last comment this has appeared on the WO site. http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/ne...o_why_Watford_supporters_were_not_protected_/
On the way home we stopped off at watford gap sevices and who should be in line at mc donalds was the man troy denny i i had a few word with him but i did not ask him if he had told the manager that he was having a big mac lol
Maybe I'm the only one not having a go at him over this, but my sympathies do lie with him. As you say, it was clearly a case of hand to face - but it's still not clear what level of contact there actually was, and we simply can't assume that it was 'only a tap'. This puts me in mind of a previous incident involving him - can't remember which game or even which season - he was rolling around on the ground after a similar altercation, everyone assumed that nothing had happened & he was playacting - even Troy Deeney told him to get up assuming that he was ok - but when he eventually stood up it was quite clear that he had received a nasty poke in the eye and couldn't see out of it. No-one had seen anything untoward on the pitch but the pictures on Facebook & Twitter after the match told a different story. Quite possibly he had that in mind on Saturday and his reaction was instinctive.
Very true BB. I've veered from sympathy, to hang and flog him to somewhere in the middle. Be interesting to see if Wolves still appeal (if they haven't already done so) and if they do, whether it is rescinded. I'm starting to have doubts about both.
The law says striking or attempting to strike an opponent. That will be what's in the referee's report. Shoving in the chest is usually dealt with by considering it to be adopting an aggressive attitude and thus a caution. In this case it looks like Fessi got a finger in the eye, however slight, and he made the most of it. I remain unimpressed by the pair of them.
How do the appeals work? Can Watford appear and show the film that Zen had a problem and whatever pictures of Fernando's face were on twit.
