Aye, I had to watch it with the missus and the daughter as they love it, after 15 minutes they said it was absolute garbage.
I think it's harder to 'get' the woke, diversity, inclusion thing when you're a white male heterosexual. The system* is kind of built around, and by, white male heterosexuals. If you're in that category then it's more difficult to see what the problems are about. Consequently, the solutions look silly because the feeling is that there is no need for solutions in the first place. * a better word didn't come to mind
Not sure that's true, most people are intelligent enough to work things out. I don't have to be in a flood zone to understand the importance of sandbags. But perhaps the 'problems' aren't so big that we need the 'sledgehammer to crack a nut' routine.
i used to watch 'big brother', it was a new and strange thing at the time and i know some who actually video taped the bits they slept through...yes, including the all night parts when they were all asleep, just in case something happened. after maybe the first four a pattern started to show, there had to be a 'regular' gay male who did not go out of his way to show he was gay alongside the 'big mincer' who wanted everyone in the world to know he may be gay, the black male and black female plus a lesbian, the nasty man, the nice man (both usually white) the mother figure and father figure who could be one of any of the previous, then 'Nads' was in it and won it, the first trans sexual on reality tv and that was the end of it for me...if Nads had a big personality or did anything of any real note she would have maybe been a deserved winner but it all seemed to boil down to what she was, which was (to me) quite sad. from the bits i have seen and heard along the years none of the others have been an improvement, a friend over the road and her daughters were glued to TOWIE quite often when i popped in for a brew and no matter how many times i tried to tell them it was all fake they would not hear it, then it came about they had to make it clear that it was all scripted and acted out for the viewers, when a programme such as 'jordy shore' gets headlines because some lass and her claim to fame was that she 'p1ssed herself' and i read now she has moved into her latest mansion, i despair, and that is why i tend to avoid almost all television.
There are some crucial parts to being male and female eg reproduction but also some of it is overplayed ie it makes very little difference in truth male or female it’s just socialisation entrenched by industry and marketing. Young people seem to be questioning gender norms and although it has its extremists I find it quite healthy that questions are being asked and boundaries are being pushed. I’m far from getting it all or agreeing with it all, I’m too old and male for that minefield but I have some interesting conversations with young people that make me see another way of thinking.
Bugger me, you think you know people... but what all with Strictly and Big Brother aficionados... no wonder they cannot select a decent 1st team for Sunderland.
I agree mate, unfortunately as with anything the extremists make it more difficult for others to accept. We've been through quite a bit with our youngest sone questioning his sexuality and it can be difficult for teenagers to express and understand. Where i think a line needs to be drawn is in the sporting arena however. You are either male or female (from birth) and that's it. If someone wants to transgender then cool, let them but keep sport a level playing field.
Some grown up people actually watch other adults making cakes on TV .... ... imagine if they'd had a bloke making scones at the welfare of a Friday night
It doesn't though in reality does it? Equality is equality, not animal farm which is where it sometimes appears we're heading in society.
Equality absolutely IS equality.....except when you have had years of Orwellian "equality" Token efforts to appease the minorities. People raging at same sex couples on Strictly.... "I don't care what they get up to, but why do they have to rub it in your face?"................etc Definitely a generational thing
I haven't seen anyone raging about it (unless i've missed it). Out of curiosity, what are some of the "token efforts" as you call them. Genuine question as i'm interested
The token efforts are adding black characters or disabled characters to a show where they have limited or no impact. Box ticking
The same sex couple on this years Strictly we’re definitely catered for by having minimum exposure to ballroom dancing which would not suit them. Total Bias from the producers & the BBC. Level playing field required for all PLEASE. Bart
Why is there always this hysterical exaggeration. It's exactly what some people are pointing out, 'yes say and do things but please drop the aggression and unnecessary finger pointing'. I have to say you're typical of people who see themselves as evangelists, you're so busy shouting you don't listen and are totally convinced you're right about everything. Where is all this rage you're talking about? Now claiming that older people are to blame doesn't do much to dissuade that feeling tbh. I'm the older generation and don't have any objection to gay couples dancing on TV but that doesn't mean I'm obliged to find it charming. The truth is that i find that, despite great technique, etc, it just looks a bit silly. Some of the dances represent a man chasing a woman, being rejected but eventually accepted and seeing his wooing succeed. Even the gay judge has lectured contestants on this. A big part of some dances is the obvious sexual tension between a man and a woman. When it's two men that doesn't exist, in the same obvious way, and it looks a bit daft to some people. To claim that it's only old people who think that and that most young people don't is a wild stab in the dark and wrong imo.
A good point, in the USA a man who used to be an also ran swimmer, is now a woman and is breaking women lots of women college records
A black women playing Anne Boleyn was ridiculous, sadly this kind of casting does not take true historical facts into consideration.
As always, it's worth following the money. Given the obvious fact that no one should get an institutionalised bad deal because of who they are, there is money in them tharr grievances. Stonewall are a very good example. They set up to de-stigmatise homosexuality. That was it really, to make their sexuality legal, which laughably it was not back then, and to ensure acceptance into society. Mission broadly accomplished, by say ten or fifteen years ago. But they were in receipt of funds. Which drum to bang now? Many gay people have said they feel alienated by Stonewall's flight off into areas they had not previously entered. They have become part of the identity politics culture where everyone has to be part of a ," community". That's where the money is. They are not, at least not in the sense that Stonewall demands is seen. Gay people for instance, are tall and short, aggressive and passive, pleasant and obnoxious, loud and quiet, and almost universally have not met each other. They live all over, and the community they belong to is the one in which they live . But that can't be used so they all get lumped into a LGBTYRGBVDD , " community" whether they like it or not. And many do not, but they do not get a hearing. A similar point could be made about race and poverty. Genuine, huge advances have been made to tackle these problems, but they cannot be conceded by the Charities and Quangos who's job it is to constantly higlight how bad things are. No good is ever conceded, apart from grudgingly. As for " equality" it will never exist, nor should it. Of opportunity there can always be more made, but of equality itself, clearly it can never be. My boss is a lot cleverer than I am and frankly he works harder. He earns more and he deserves it. I am cleverer and work harder than some others and am rewarded accordingly, otherwise why bust a gut? Let someone else do it. Or, as in societies which have tried to impose equality, have the state allocate all the jobs, decide the wages, and take care of all advancement. It didn't work out that well. Nothing is perfect, and it isn't here. But we are miles better off than the paid, professional moaners will have it.
