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Will we stay up this coming season?

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Mexican Hornet, Jul 17, 2015.

  1. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    I agree
    Where are Naawich :huh:
     
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  2. canary-dave

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    We are Premier League! ;)
     
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    His wouldn't get the chance. He would have knocked it out of the hands of whoever was giving it to him.
     
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    I am the biggest hypocrite for saying this but if we do not feed the troll he may get hungry and go elsewhere....n.
     
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  5. Markthehorn

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    One really wonders why anyone bothers to read such lazy drivel. Oh of course, it's the Daily Mail - how silly of me not to recognise their inbuilt predjudice. Curiously, another article in the same rag comes to a different conclusion. I thought they had improved. Obviously not.
    Anyway, from the evidence of last season, recruitment,and pre-season (particularly the Sevilla result)we'll finish well above Naarwich, Bournemouth, Villa (although I do admire sherwood) Leicester, Sunderland and probably WBA. i.e. 14th. The key thing is -we must convert a higher percentage of chances. Last season, every time we missed one, another came along soon. won't happen this time around. That said, we will get more time on the ball, and I fancy Ighalo to surprise everyone - except us! Whatever, we are in a brilliant situation the more so for being written off by so many muppet journo's. COYH
     
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  7. A1 Horn

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    Stuart Pearce's view on our chances on SSN today:

    "To get up last year was a fantastic achievement. I think they’ve got some quality players and they will be one of the surprise packages. They’re one of the favourites to go down but I don’t see that. I can’t see them being relegated. I think they’ll do better than people think."

    About as positive as I've seen!
     
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  8. brian_66_usa

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    I tried to open an account to bet on watford being the best of the promoted teams at 5/2 or 9/4 ( with 50 pound matched). They told me that because they can see my computer is in the US they cant take the bet .even if i have a UK address and UK bank account BUT we know the real reason is we have got them all on the run LOL
     
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  9. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    I have read no article that gives Watford a chance of remaining in the Premier League, and no article deeper than Watford were promoted so must return straightaway, a new manager with lots of new players and no experience of the Premier League.

    How journalists are allowed to publish articles with no research or background to their piece is very strange.
     
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    And unfortunately it clouds the judgement of others. Half of my darts team last night were telling me we'll be the whipping boys - even though they don't know any of our players or our new signings. Interestingly, those who realise that football does not begin and end with Manchester united and Chelsea think we could do well.
     
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  11. A1 Horn

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    Just found this on the Betfair site. That's two positive articles I've found in the last two days!

    Premier League: Four reasons why Watford are pick of the newbies
    Watford are the most formidable of the three clubs promoted from the Championship, argues Michael Lintorn...

    "Burnley were the first Championship runners-up in seven years to fall straight back down, with the six others not just staying up but doing so with ease"

    Despite being an injury-time strike away from winning the Championship title and only finishing a point behind eventual winners Bournemouth, Watford are 3.20 outsiders to be the Premier League's top promoted team. There are at least four reasons to believe that this is a phenomenal bet...

    The people in charge have the nous:

    This isn't like when a Championship side run by an unprepared local businessman or overexcited billionaires gain promotion. Watford are led by a family who have owned football clubs for 29 years, guiding Udinese in Italy and Granada in Spain to the top tier and gradually establishing them there.

    In addition to the experience comes a wide-ranging scouting network that has sourced the likes of Alexis Sanchez, Juan Cuadrado, Medhi Benatia and Samir Handanovic, and the Hornets' ascent from the Championship owes plenty to the calibre of player that they had easy access to.

    They aren't manager dependent:

    A lot of Championship teams that find a way to the Premier League get there because of a manager working wonders, for instance Owen Coyle at Burnley, Brian McDermott at Reading, Paul Lambert at Norwich or Ian Holloway at Blackpool. The problem with a manager-triggered boom is that when that instigator either receives a better offer or is "found out", you are left with nothing.

    Watford's climb clearly hasn't been coach-reliant as they got through four in the campaign that they went up and they were in the top two before hiring Slavisa Jokanovic.

    A structure where the man in the dugout isn't that integral increases security, as West Brom showed in the past five years. It doesn't matter if the tactician leaves (Roy Hodgson) because every other key staff member remains or if they get an appointment wrong (Alan Irvine) as they are ruthless enough to swiftly readjust.

    Their spending has been shrewd:

    As alluded to earlier, Watford are very well connected and that means not having to fall into the promoted club traps of signing recently relegated players or guys in their mid-30s clinging on for one final Premier League payday.

    Their five additions to date this summer are all internationals for European nations. Their average number of caps sits at 24 and the average age is an ideal 27 - experienced but not over the hill.

    Jose Holebas was preferred to Ashley Cole at left back for Roma last season, Matej Vydra has already spent two terms at Vicarage Road, striking 38 times, and Etienne Capoue never got much of a chance at Tottenham. There is also a tradition of discarded Spurs midfielders proving to be valuable commodities lower down the table (Tom Huddlestone, Gylfi Sigurdsson).

    Championship runners-up have a great survival rate:

    Watford fans who believe that everything happens for a reason should interpret the cruel way in which they were denied the Championship title as a blessing. Second place is the least triumphant way to go up, yet it is the best position from which to survive your first Premier League season.

    Burnley were the first runners-up in seven years to fall straight back down, with the six others not just staying up but doing so with ease. Birmingham finished ninth in 2009/10, West Brom placed 11th in 2010/11 and Stoke and Norwich ranked 12th in 2008/09 and 2011/12.
     
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  12. yorkshirehornet

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    The Guardian asked a fan of each Prem team for their views and forecasts for the season. I assume they are all bloggers of some sort as Matt Rowson was the Watford fans' representative. I have listed the predictions in a tabular form as, I think, it gives some insight. Interestingly, each of the promoted teams are predicted to finish fourteenth, along with WBA and Sunderland. Only Villa are predicted to finish below them. In terms of final positions in the bottom six places this could be true.

    Position Team
    1 Arsenal, Chelsea
    2 Man. City, Man Utd
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    5 Tottenham
    6 Liverpool
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    8 Everton, Southampton, Swansea
    9 Crystal Palace, West Ham
    10 Stoke
    11 Newcastle
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    13 Leicester
    14 Bournemouth, Norwich, Sunderland, Watford, WBA
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    17 Aston Villa
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    http://www.theguardian.com/football...-verdicts-part-1-arsenal-to-manchester-united
    http://www.theguardian.com/football...ts-part-2-newcastle-united-to-west-ham-united
     
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  15. Markthehorn

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    Failed Chesham United manager? That Lawro? <laugh>
     
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  17. Hornet-Fez

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    In the words of Phil Daniels towards the end of Quadrophenia... " W******s"
     
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  18. Mexican Hornet

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    Bit more optimistic than at the start but still a long way to go!
     
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  19. Mexican Hornet

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    Villa, Norwich then Sunderland coming up, that´ll go a long way to sorting us out one way or another.
     
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  20. Markthehorn

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    Newcastle still look a mess.

    I'd fancy us to beat Villa and Norwich on a good day.
     
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