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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by canary-dave, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    You and your craven party might be happy to sit on the sidelines and happily watch 100s of Thousands of Innocent Syrian civilians being slaughtered but there are those that wanted to help and prevent this. <ok>
     
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  2. Cruyff's Turn

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    A bit like Libya then Johnny Boy?
     
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  3. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    A NATO led campaign with Britain lending support to the Americans and French in averting an even greater crisis than the one that Libya faces now. I remember Red Ed backing this particular campaign at the time and it's despicable that he has attacked the Coalition for doing this simply for cheap electioneering. But yes I forgot only the Labour Party are the Guardians of morality and only they can decide which Wars are just or not! <doh>
     
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  4. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Out of interest JWM, where do you get your curious use of capitalisation from?

    Genuine q
     
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  5. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, you didn't answer my question - would the Tories under IDS have teamed up with the yanks to invade Iraq or not?
     
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  6. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    It's called a Fooking IPAd. <ok>
     
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  7. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    You would have to ask him!

    I was against the invasion and I remember signing a petition at the time which was presented to my local Tory MP in SE Cambridgeshire. <ok>
     
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  8. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    You know just as well as I do that IDS would have been up Bush's arse a mile and would have invaded at the drop of the hat, absolutely no question whatsoever.
    Yes Blair was wrong to do what he did, but it is shocking for any Tory supporter to even attempt to grab the morale higher ground regarding the issue because they would have been just as bad, if not worse
     
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  9. Cruyff's Turn

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    Saddam and Gaddafi were undoubtedly baddies. Iraq and Libya would equally undoubtedly be better places for their people today had they not been deposed however. Some bright spark decided that they would have orderly elections and the loser would do a Goodluck Jonathan and shake the victor by the hand. Well they didnae!

    I think I'll nominate JWM for the Nobel Peace Prize.
     
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  10. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    You talk complete Bollux!

    There were many Tory members who were against the War, you do not have right to determine the moral high ground, no more than I do! The fact is that Bliar had already promised Bush that we would get involved long before he tried to sell it to the British people. <ok>
     
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  11. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Funny how the Chillcot report has been delayed yet again and will not report until 2016. I bet it will take Bliar that long to shred all the evidence against him!
     
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  12. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    It's common knowledge that IDS (Tory leader at the time) voted in favour of the invasion, as did future leader dodgy Dave so the Tories as a party were always going to vote in favour <doh>

    And as for dodgy Dave and his heart of gold in wanting to go to war with Syria to save the "100s of thousands of innocent civilians being slaughtered" - how come he's given refuge to less than ONE HUNDRED of the FOUR MILLION refugees so far? Germany have pledged asylum to more than 30,000, the heartless sausage eating bastards.
     
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  13. johnnywarksmoustache

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    We are just too busy letting in the rest of fooking Europe I guess!
     
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  14. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Oh and Bliar originally sold it as WMD when in fact it was about Regime Change from the very start! The War was sold on a false prospectus and an innocent man died as a consequence of Bliars propaganda. That man has blood on his hands and yet you can't see it because you are so fookin blinkered.
     
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  15. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    I've never said what he did wasn't wrong - in fact scroll up a bit, take off your fookin blinkers and you'll see where I said that it was wrong.

    I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just saying the Tories would have done exactly the same thing so have absolutely no rights to the morale high ground on the matter, much as they think they like to think they do.
     
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  16. johnnywarksmoustache

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    That is conjecture at best and you know it!
     
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  17. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Same as this well trodden propaganda bullshit about how Labour "bankrupted the nation" - the ****ing two-faced Tory ****ers supported every single Labour spending plan right up until the GLOBAL financial crisis in 2008.

    The truth is out there if people can be bothered to wade through the horseshit
     
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  18. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    No it isn't - did you not read the part about how IDS (Tory leader at the time) and future leader dodgy Dave both voted in favour of the invasion of Iraq? They thought it was a good idea and the right thing to do - what part of that don't you get?

    These are facts, not conjecture <doh>
     
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  19. johnnywarksmoustache

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    I happen to know IDS he used to work in the same company as me and he is a very decent and honourable man. He voted on the basis that there was supposed to be vast quantities of WMD held by Saddam and it was able to be deployed against us within 45 Minutes! Hans Blix did not find any such thing and was denied more time to carry out his search. The UN denied authorisation for Bush and Bliar to prosecute an invasion yet they went ahead any way. You base your whole arguement as if IDS knew the whole facts when in fact as we later discover the whole Country was kept in the dark as to Bliars true motives for conducting an illegal War. I say again that you base your whole arguement on conjecture as it suits your own twisted version of events.
     
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  20. Cruyff's Turn

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    Only one e in argument.
     
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