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  1. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    I'm just shocked at how gullible the Tory members on here have fallen for Cameron's outright lies!
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    The same can equally be said about you and all the other Labour Trolls that have swallowed Red Eds BS! <doh>
     
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  3. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Nobody can lie like a Tory and Cameron is a champion!

    <doh><doh><doh>
     
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  4. KIO

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    Well I think the worst PM in living memory takes some beating when it comes to being a damn liar.

    Take a bow Tony Bliar
     
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  5. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    If there was any sense of justice he should be up before the War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague.
     
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  6. KIO

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    It's all Hughton's fault
     
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  7. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    You could well be right, he gets the blame for everything else that's not his fault! <doh>
     
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  8. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Blair was the best IMO. The Iraq war was a mistake caused by false information from the security services. Knowing their history I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was deliberate. It's those shadowy folk who should be in the dock.
     
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  9. KIO

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    Plleeeeeeeease ! <doh>
     
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  10. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    He got Campbell to Sex up the dossier and mislead Parliament over the 45 Minutes Claim besides a whole load of other things! Oh and not content with that he got Campbell his Lap dog to expose the poor Dr Kelly which drove him into an early grave under highly questionable circumstances. Yeah your pal Blair was the best when it came to lying, cheating and deceiving. <ok>
     
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  11. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I find it a bit weird that Cruyff is defending this man when he is hated by more on the Left than on the right of politics! A nice bit of cross dressing there Cruyff old mate! <laugh>
     
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  12. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    New Labour old boy Major,Hague,IDS,Howard. Saw them all off and left you with Tory boy Cameron who couldn't even beat Brown and now is set to get whacked by Miliband!
     
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  13. Norfolkbhoy

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    Not going to happen ct. Just don't see how labour are going to overturn the current Tory majority in England whilst the SNP gobble up the bulk of their Scottish seats.

    I can honestly see the result of this election leaving us with another conservative lib dem coalition.

    I think the Tories made a huge mistake with the guarantee of a euro referendum and the insane proposed sell off of the housing stock of the housing associations but I see the former as fear of ukip and latter as a hugely cynical ploy to sway a very specific section of the electorate.
     
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  14. Cruyff's Turn

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    The house giveaway has backfired. It's upset a lot of private renters and the LD's will do well to hang on to 20 seats. The current Ashcroft poll of marginal seats is showing a 4% swing to Labour.
     
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  15. Canary Rob

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    Miliband has been on a roll recently. All the right-wing papers have realised their strategy of trying to make him look like an incompetent bungling nerd have backfired because (slightly odd as he is) his tv appearances have been significantly more impressive than the way he has been smeared.

    The Tory campaign has been a shameful disgrace, but it highlights how little people trust journalists that actually having them on side is looking like a negative.


    I think it's still unlikely, but the fact is polls usually tend to show extremities, so I can even just about envisage a Labour majority, especially with the constituency boundaries being in their favour. It would take a stellar run from here, but it's plausible. I think that because I think this election talk has been all about the minority parties. My feeling is that when push comes to shove, in terms of percentages of votes won by the minor parties, the change to the political landscape will be dramatic, but not quite to the level predicted - so SNP will make huge gains in Scotland, yes, but not quite as much as anticipated in current polls. That will help Labour.

    I've discussed with CT before, but I think LDs will do marginally better than the polls, as is quite typical for the sitting government. That won't hurt Labour much, more likely the Tories as the Tories stand to gain more of the seats that LDs will lose in England.

    As a Labour majority is unlikely, I think we're very much looking at a LD Labour coalition tbh, but for that there will be a few prayers that the LDs can do ok outside their southwest strongholds. Think Clegg could be out though. I know CT as a fierce Labour fan can't stand them, but I truly think that is the best outcome if Labour can't get a majority.
     
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  16. Cruyff's Turn

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    My favoured coalition is Miliband and the Wee Lassy. I know what you mean about the LD's and it is always possible that where the Tory is second the Labour voters will vote tactically to keep the Tory out.
     
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  17. Canary Rob

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    From a "next five years" perspective, I would agree that there's a lot to be said about an SNP/Labour coalition. I'm still not sure about the SNP long term. Miliband is right to rule them out at this stage. I think it could be very dangerous for Labour as they could end up shooting themselves in the foot. If an alliance with the SNP for the sake of power now means we end up with another Thatcher/Major length Tory stint afterwards because of the damage it does to Labour long term, that would be a disaster for social mobility.
     
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  18. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree that Miliband should rule out any kind of deal with the SNP. However if the numbers stack up I wouldn't be averse to working with them afterwards. The only trouble is that I think that a significant number of elected Labour members might well dig their heels in on the issue. As regards Miliband's performance I did predict that this would happen. A really stupid thing to do portraying him as an eejit. Another Lynton Crosby cock up.
     
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  19. johnnywarksmoustache

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    And your boys hopeless Rent controls have been roundly condemned by eminent Economists as being completely unworkable and counter productive.
     
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  20. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    So the Tories wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq then? <doh> Of course they bloody would have and only an idiot would think otherwise. As much as I was strongly against the invasion from day one I really hate that argument, it's so bloody lazy and ignorant of all the facts - pretty much like every argument from the Tories.

    If dodgy Dave had gotten his way we'd have been at war in Syria now - why do we not hear about that more often? It was only the intervention of Miliband that avoided is teaming up with IS to take on Assad - thank Christ "Red Ed and his BS" came through there eh?
     
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