We are trying to compete with the Manchesters, & Chelsea who have greater pulling power and bigger budgets it's therefore far harder for Spurs to find the right strikers than most, unless you face this fact you are being unrealistic.
Sorry, but out of the Manchesters and Chelsea how many strikers have they bought or are after? Man City are actively trying to offload a striker to us. Man Utd have bought 1 striker who we had ZERO chance of signing. Chelsea are collecting attacking midfielders and not signing strikers. Arsenal kinda fit your argument. They've signed 2 strikers who we could have conceivably got. TWO! For cheapish. I bet they are successes too. There has to be a reason we are missing out. Are we aiming too high? Are we pissing around looking at the Llorentes of the world when, in all respect to the players, we should've been looking at the Giroud's?
Phew! HELLO! It has taken four years because it's bloody difficult. What part of DIFFICULT do you not understand. The great Harry signed Defoe and Adebayor on loan. We will probably sign Ade and if the long drawn out negotiations don't give you a clue to the difficulty then nothing will. I don't blame Levy for not behaving like a Portsmouth or a Leeds and risking the future of the club. The millions are real it's not a computer game.
Calm down dear. No need to get arsey. I understand perfectly how difficult it probably is. That still doesn't explain how we are the only team in this situation though. Over the last 4-5 years we have more pedigree than Newcastle and Liverpool (just 2 examples), yet they have managed to pull in Ba, Cisse, Carroll and Suarez. All of which would walk into our team. The 2 newcastle boys would even fit in with regards to fee and wages. I'm not saying its not difficult, i'm saying other teams are doing it better.
Harry signing Defoe and Crouch was hardly difficult - Defoe (and Kaboul) were signed on the basis Pompey hadn't actually paid for them in the first place, whilst Crouch (and Kranjcar) were signed with the money owed for Mendes and Pamarot. Fulham and Sunderland are making damn sure they paid for the numerous players we sent their way for that reason...
Because WE ARE THE ONLY TEAM in this position. We have finished top four or thereabouts for the past few seasons YET we have neither the pull nor financial clout of our rivals. THAT'S WHY! spufectionist I am not attacking you ONLY my comments are addressed to posters like Roo and in particular GHoddle10 who continually post their unrealistic DEMANDS.
Ok, no worries. Part of my point though is that i'm not demanding anything. One of my earlier points was "are we setting our sights to unrealistically high?". Personally i think we are, and we keep missing out. We let Crouch leave last summer, no he may not be the quality we need to get to where we WANT to be, but right now (to me at least) Crouch would be a useful player to have in the squad. The same goes for Saha. My confidence would be higher with Defoe, Crouch and Saha in the squad. I'd still be desperately wanting to strengthen that area but at least we'd have options. If Ade signs i will change my opinion completely. Then our first team, barring Ade injury, is very strong. I can't be sure that deal isn't dead in the water though. I'm probably now flogging my point like a de-composing horse but its players like Ba and Cisse (before Newcastle) and Berba (before us) who we should be looking at signing. They're out there, us plebs might not know them, but they are out there.
but spurf, you seem to be looking at it from the opposite end of the spectrum and taking others points as "why aren't we competing with city,united and chelsea". everyone is realistic enough to know that we can't do that. we're not asking for the club to get into the states Portsmouth and Leeds got into. but in the last 6 seasons, we've only spent a net of £5m. - that's quite incredible. we've also been in the CL and had 1 season with much bigger revenue stream in that season and spent none of it! we all know there's a new stadium to think about, but we have to think about remaining competitive. we are a profitable club and unfortunately need to do something or CL football is never gonna happen. chelsea, United and City are probably going to be the top 3 that no one else will touch this season (or it looks that way). 2 of those clubs will continue to spend more in Jan if it's not looking as good as first thought, or if it's really tight at the top. That leaves a 4th spot for Arsenal and ourselves to fight over. (based on recent history). At present, arsenal might have lost RVP, but they have still made their moves in signing 2 new strikers + santi cazorla. who knows whether they'll work, but who are we to criticise? they are the ones believed to be able to do the job, and they may well do it. wenger consistently gets top 4 with Arsenal, so I'll back his judgement. We are sat with Kane and Defoe with our first league game tomorrow. Arguably one of our best players is on his bike and we don't have our main striker who was a major influence last season. Also our rock, Parker, is out for 2 months. How anyone can be optimistic about improving on last season with our squad as it currently is, I do not know. it's totally unrealistic. Like you say spurf, this isn't a computer game. players cant just be bought at 11pm on 31st august and be expected to perform when you slot them into your team with the click of a mouse. these are real people are likely to need time, especially as most will come from abroad, as prem-prem transfers are ridiculously expensive.
I'd love you to justify how anything I've said is an unrealistic "demand". That's a ridiculous comment.
The same end is in my sights, success for Spurs. You still have not addressed the issue Roo and that is we would if we could. AVB needs to sign the best he can for his own position and future. We do not know the REAL situation, Levy may be quite confident he is going to sign Ade, but he can't tell us can he. AVB is talking about sorting it this week that sounds confident enough. BTW It's not as difficult for a top striker to fit into a team as a midfielder or defender as the team plays to them rather than the other way round
I am a spurs fan. I have been a spurs fan since 1975. I cried as a 9 year old when we were relegated in 77. We bought Ossie and Ricky in 78 and in our first home match with them we got battered 4 -1 by Villa. I remember losing 7 nil at Anfield as a 11yr old. I remember losing 5 nil at home to the Arses 2 months later. These informative moments from my childhood mean I am a true spur.... and as such I will be as god damn ****ing miserable as I please and no amount of happy go lucky, glass being half full, mindless happy crap will change that...so shut up and come and join all true spurs fans on the dark side!
Expecting the signing of the players you want when you want despite the known difficulties of finding suitable strikers is unrealistic IMO. I don't do ridiculous but I do disagree with the general drift of your expectations although the outcome you want is the same as mine.
I bet all the other fans are loving this thread! Lets all agree we'd be happy with 5th and have a bit of a kiss
Just because you have been a miserable bastard for many years does not justify it. I too have been around a long time supporting and enjoying Spurs in many situations good and bad but never dull.
While I won't say I can't understand it, I will say I'm just not a doom and gloom person. The season's about to start, I'm looking forward to it. Whether the team looks to be in good shape, bad shape or somewhere in between seems very secondary. Even if all the pieces looked to be in place, one injury or some weird development (Capello quitting, for example) knocks them all far and wide. Why can't the opposite happen--that things look to be out of order, and something happens which makes everything click?
We still haven't replaced the partnership of Berbatov and Keane imho. They were frustrated, to leaving, because the midfield was on the hollow side. We sorted the midfield with Huddlestone, Modric, Palacios, Sandro and now Parker, but we now still have the same old striker problem. ...and now Modric is on the way out..... Are we ever going to sort these things out at the same time? Crouch and Defoe came close. Crouch and VDV came closer. Adebayor and VDV came closer still. Sigurdsson is a great younger alternative to VDV.... but we still don't have the great Berbatov replacement. I like the idea of aiming high and all, but I'd feel better if whilst doing all of this striker hunting, we already had a Jelavic, or a Rodellaga who is prepared to loyally lead the line and play as part of a squad, without using us as a step gap, or complaining when wages aren't sky high, or when he isn't played all of the time, or when we don't have champions league. Defoe is the closest we have to this?!? AVB is trying to tell us that Kane is this. Really?!? At this rate I'd welcome Berbatov back. I will be in support tomorrow, and it's not all doom and gloom, but let's not pretend that we shouldn't be doing better in these transfer windows.
This is how I feel too. I can see the holes in our squad and understand peoples frustrations, but I can't help but look forward to the new season.
