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Why I DONT rate Koscielney.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by TheBear, May 6, 2012.

  1. Love this post.

    Here's and example - there is a clear correlation that shows that the more fireman working on putting out a fire, the more deaths occur.

    How can that be?
     
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  2. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    Thomas Vermaelen is our best CB, end of discusssion. We concede far more goals with him out, than we do with Koscielny out.
     
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    Kos is our best centre back, end of argument
     
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  4. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    Vermaelen is not even close to being our best centre back. Koscielny and Mertesacker are streets ahead of him.

    He makes mistakes far too often. Costly mistakes.
     
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  5. Kyle?

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    And Koscielny doesn't make costly errors (Carling cup final, 2011)?
     
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  6. Korton

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    All Arsenal need is to sort the defense out.
     
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    You always have to turn things into a pissing contest.

    I'm a supporting member on another forum ( http://www.bullshido.net/) . I'd like to invite you to a 'Throwdown'.
    The next one we have is in Oxford but there should be one in London soon.
    It's basically an excuse for men to settle their arguments with their fists in a controlled enviroment. Seeing as you like throwing insults around so much and are obviously such a tough guy this should be no problem for you.

    Join the Forum ****wit
     
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  8. Kyle?

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    We have the players, it's the coaching that's poor. Wenger won't hire a defense coach, he thinks he can do better.
     
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  9. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    Of course he does. Every defender does, but Koscielny doesn't make half as many mistakes as Vermaelen.

    Vermaelen makes a mistake every other game, Koscielny makes one every 3 or 4 months, and they're not even major errors like Vermaelen's.

    Mertesacker also doesn't make half as many mistakes as Vermaelen.

    Get your head out of your ass and realise that Vermaelen is an overrated defender who costs us points.

    This isn't even close, can't believe we're even debating this.
     
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  10. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    TheBear, you're boring mate. Give it a rest <ok>
     
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  11. Korton

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    hhmm I think they are skillful defenders but sometimes they get bullied off the ball against the more aggresive sides.
     
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  12. Kyle?

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    Koscielny cost us a trophy, Vermaelen hasn't.
     
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  13. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    That's not the point you idiot.

    Koscielny is a better defender than Vermaelen in almost every department.

    Vermaelen has made over 10 mistakes in the last few months alone.

    ****ing hell, people on here seem to think Vermaelen and Song are untouchable. They're overrated players who cost us points regularly.
     
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  14. Korton

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    The Verminator is why your 2 points ahead of us.
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    Song is pretty average, i'm not defending him, but your love of Kos is bizzare.
     
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  16. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    How is it bizarre? Have you not got a favourite Arsenal player?

    Koscielny has his flaws like every other defender, but he's streets ahead of Vermaelen. It's not even close.

    Vermaelen is an overrated defender. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that?
     
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  17. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    He's cost us more points than he's won us.
     
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  18. Kyle?

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    Yes, Verminator is overrated, but he's still better than Koscielny. He's a better leader, he's a threat from corners, he's a better tackler etc. The only area i see Kos being better than him is at sweeping up messes created (usually) by Song/Ramsey. His positioning is suspect, but he has decent pace to recover (slower than Verm though).
     
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  19. Kamran - KingKoscielny

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    Lol, sorry but but I can't take you seriously.

    He's a better leader than Koscielny, that's it. That's the only department he's better than Koscielny in.

    Koscielny is also a threat from corners. He doesn't score as many goals as Vermaelen because he doesn't spend half of his time in the opposition team's area because he knows he's a DEFENDER, not a striker. And Koscielny has the best tackling rate in the league this season. He's one of the best tacklers I've seen in a long time. Vermaelen's tackling is nowhere near as good as Koscielny's.

    Koscielny is faster, better tackler, better passer, better reader of the game etc. It's an endless list.
     
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  20. Kyle?

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    I don't know why i bother. <doh>
     
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