Why hasn't Enrique been forced out on a free?
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his agent has come out and said most of it and to be honest if he behaved the way he did (and has in the past bust up in changing room with shearer springs to mind) then **** him he goes on about team morale but that in no way helps it one little bit and players like that who don't get their way then be ****s are best off out of our club imo as for sacking him for the twitter stuff they'd have done it the first time he slagged them off if that was the case it's more than that and his agent has explained most of it.
oohhh and what AH said
Not really its just the twitter stuff has continued and he had already been warned to stop. This Leeds stuff is very in terms of football. Anybody who has played any team knows this. It goes on all the time. If we really knew went on behind closed doors, we'd probably want all the players sacked with this reasoning. It happens. Jesus one of our players broke anothers jaw for ****s sake.
I'd say the main factor was acting as a petulant child who hasn't got his own way.
The day his contract wasn't on offer the Barton PR campaign kicked in. Joey joined Twitter and his agent ran off to every single media outlet informing the fans that the only way that Joey would get a new contract was if there was a change of ownership.
Why did they feel the need to state that. "Hey fans! If you want Joey to stay you have to rise up and revolt to usurp Mike!"
Joey went on about the fans buying the club. Yeah Joey; all of non-millionaire fans can do that.
The 'Make Joey a Saint' machine rolled on and on.
He then slates the transfer window progress which could be construed as an attack on the new players.
The guy and his agent have manoeuvred Joey into a situation where his impending transfer was brought closer to fruition but still Joey harps on about the greatness of the fans and the honour of wearing the black n white of Newcastle.
A few attacks on the board later and he's been officially transfer listed for free.
The 'Joey is an NUFC martyr' PR spin now takes a kick in the nuts when his own agent states that there were issues between Joey and Pardew as well as Cabaye.
An honour Joey? Then just bloody play and let the manager manage.
This is not all Mikes fault as Joey and his PR crusade has to take some of the blame.
Not blameless but the bottom line is the club has caused the situation by not offering players what they claimed they would. They continually lie and it just creates unrest. of course Barton has gone the wrong route, but its where the problem begins that I'm interested in. If you just deal with the consequences of a problem and not the route, it will resurface at a later date. It'll just be a different player. The club needs to change the way it operates and does business or they will continually find themselves in this scenario. Same **** different day springs to mind. If they need to reduce costs and can't offer these players good enough contracts or stick to verbal agreements, front up and say it. Most fans would appreciate a bit of honest and transparency rather than this calamitous current process. One guy could be an axe to grind, several means there is a deeper lying problem in the processes. As I've said many times I don't mind them wanting these guys out to reduce costs. I don't like it but I accept we have high debts and need to reduce them. I understand his position. its a business that is currently in a poor financial state. But please just come clean and say it openly.
arguments and the like yes happen weekly in football but a player refusing to play is not a weekly occurrence and i 100% agree with OT
it's actually unbelievable how some people are still backing ashley!
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as AB pointed out the club will be here a long time after ashley has ****ed off
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as AB pointed out the club will be here a long time after ashley has ****ed off
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His agent said he was unhappy with not being captain for the day which you can understand considering he was vice captain last year.
I was at the match and there was no argument during the warm up
The stuff about him refusing to play s obviously bollocks considering the played
He had every right to shout in the dressing room after that performance, individuals had poor games and the tactics were wrong (two target men come on). He is a natural leader and if you have ever played football at any level you will realise they will bollock you when your ****, it's because you deserve it.
This... and of course the fact that Joey didn't learn from his mistakes whereas Jose did.
round and round we all go where it'll stop no one knows
the thing i object to is people calling people Ashley lovers just because they look at it from all sides pathetic really and to be honest not seen any pro Ashley comments on here just objective views.the same people who buy shirts go to matches etc. could be accused of supporting Ashley if the same weird logic is applied
the thing i object to is people calling people Ashley lovers just because they look at it from all sides pathetic really and to be honest not seen any pro Ashley comments on here just objective views.the same people who buy shirts go to matches etc. could be accused of supporting Ashley if the same weird logic is applied
Is it me or is everyone just voicing their opinion over and over again in different words and scenarios. I don't see the point in just going round in circles continuously.
After watching the American special on Top Gear, I'm not sure I want to get involved with those hillbillies.
The same logic must apply to those who claim some opinions are based on their hatred of Ashley though right? People are also entitled to be of the opinion the club is wrong, yet they are also being accused of their views being based on irrational hatred and "it must be the baords fault syndrome" Personally I don't see anyone as an Ashley defender (even though I have possibly used a similar phrase yesterday when frustrated by the latest developments). They simply have a different opinion on what is the root of the problem.
I'm guessing obvioulsy, but most clubs know what's going on around their players, and I think NUFC know that Enrique is liable to command a reasonable fee if sold this summer, they probably know who's likely to pay it and are just waiting for the move.
I think they are also fairly certain no one would pay anything for Barton this summer, people will take him now for nowt, but his track record for trouble (and here we are again its just he hasn't clouted anybody) means they won't pay a fee. So rather than keep a bloke who's going to unsettle the whole dressing room let him go for nowt now and save his wages for someone who wants to play for the club (not just play for them when they do what he wants). Lots of similarities with Bellamy here, serial moaner when not getting his own way.
Pity cos Joeys a good player but as much as I dislike Ashley in his shoes I'd have done exactly the same.
And before Joey enters into NUFC martyrdom, remember 1 season out of 4 aint a good return for £18m (fee + wages).
I think they are also fairly certain no one would pay anything for Barton this summer, people will take him now for nowt, but his track record for trouble (and here we are again its just he hasn't clouted anybody) means they won't pay a fee. So rather than keep a bloke who's going to unsettle the whole dressing room let him go for nowt now and save his wages for someone who wants to play for the club (not just play for them when they do what he wants). Lots of similarities with Bellamy here, serial moaner when not getting his own way.
Pity cos Joeys a good player but as much as I dislike Ashley in his shoes I'd have done exactly the same.
And before Joey enters into NUFC martyrdom, remember 1 season out of 4 aint a good return for £18m (fee + wages).
As i've said on my post i feel Joey has engineered this move. Jose said his bit and only got fined, however he hasnt come out and said he will see out his contract like joey did. Jose will happily move on if a club comes in for him. Therefore the difference is that joey was going to go for nowt anyway so ashley is losing nothing and gaining his wages for a year.
His latest twitter rabblings today just boil my piss if i'm honest. Quoting George Orwell "telling the truth will be a revolutionary act"
What a load of ****e.
His latest twitter rabblings today just boil my piss if i'm honest. Quoting George Orwell "telling the truth will be a revolutionary act"
What a load of ****e.
exactly like i said round and round it goes pointless really
myself i stated above ashley and the club are 2 different things in my opinion(ashley is running the club yes but he isn't the club) i'll support the club/team but not ashley but in the same breath i won't support a player that rocks the club for his own gains
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