Yeah was a great player, I'd only get rid if we sign this Cesar bloke though tbf! Oh and Benayoun has to go, without a doubt!
Nice to see I made your sig Drogs based on one mans roller coster ride last season where he did....**** all Only, and remember this, only chelsea fans disagree **** it, make a thread about it
Christ, I'm going to have to explain this, you clearly had your mind solely on the title race for the last 4 months of the season. AVB, one of our worst managers in the past 20 years. Isolated members of the squad, tactically inept in the PL (high line etc, which you lot had no problem commenting on when you flukey beat us 3-1), total **** to the press which I put down to his immaturity in the game as he is a fairly new manager, awful man management in general which has been noted by former Chelsea players including Carl Magnay who has openly said he is pretty much a total bellend. RDM, came in as caretaker manager yes, the only thing you are right about . To suggest he did '**** all' is the most narrow minded, head above clouds, strange, stupid opinions I have heard in a while. The squad were down, moral was low, we were playing **** football whilst losing at the same time. He had a massive job to do and it was to at least secure fourth spot and save an embarrassing result against Napoli at the brigde. He failed in securing fourth spot, why? Not becuase he's a **** manager, because we were the team playing 3 games a week as oppose to Spuds, Goons and Toon playing the one premier league fixture. We hammered Napoli 4-1, hammered Spurs 5-1, beat Barca at home and came back from 2-0 down with 10 men, why? Because of HIS tactical moves, you can be a twat and base his entire managerial attributes on his time at West Brom but it would be extremely foolish to do so. I can take you saying he won't succeed, I can take you saying his style of play is unattractive, but saying he did '**** all'? Nah mate, not in the slightest.
**** all plain and simple. We all know who runs chelsea and it aint whichever puppet is named as manager drogs. Do you think the world is stupid. No club has a more interfering owner than yours. Worst manager of the last 20 years? Right, so it wasnt the fact Chelsea players were childish ****s, they had no part to play in your utterly shocking league campaign? So why can a man who failed with a bunch of ego maniacs do so well with players at different a different club? Porto are a big club, not chelsea big but still a big club. He won domestic ( easy tbh ) and european titles. I suspect you feel the players had no role in AVBs failings, it was all him? take last season away as it doesnt do either any favours, overrates one and underrates the other based on their time working for a truly awful owner and look before that. AVB ****s on RDM from miles above. I will be willing to chane my opinion at the end of this season based on what the do now. Ones at a normal club and the other now has pressure and not a free ride. Lets end the discussion now and come back to it in may 2013, agreed, its the best way to call it
Oh and 3 games a week, who the **** is he? Wenger. Stop moaning, its 270minutes for **** sake. Not an excuse, he failed in the league because there was still pressure to get 4th, in europe there was none at all, you expected to lose so anything more is a bonus. Turned out it was a huge bonus. Done
Happy to p.s for the record, I do not believe it was solely AVB's fault, I'm not naive. But you have to deal with what you've got sensibly, and AVB ****ed up big time in the man management sector.
Who's moaning? Nobody It's a mere fact we had to play 3 games, my point is that there was a lot more pressure on our squad than the other 3 competing for 4th.
fair enough, suppose 20 years of playing 3 a week means when someone says its hard you think, well we managed it. Interestingly zingy posted a stat that AVB had a better win ratio in the league. Interesting.
But while you were playing 2/3 a week you were challenging for titles, meaning that the other team challenging for titles was most probably also playing 2/3 games a week which puts them in equal position, ergo no excuses. I've responded to that ratio, we've heard it all before on here and it means **** all. Please use your heads, it's harder to win games in the business end of the season without being in 3 competitions, let alone when you're rivals for 4th spot aren't.
Its something Rafa used as an excuse all the time for his failings as a manager and human being and the reason Liverpool were always a cup team.
Yes but with Rafa it WAS an excuse because United were also in the same position playing the same amount of games, had United been playing 1 game a week while Pool were playing 3 than it would be a valid reason to give an excuse. Do you seriously not see what I mean?
Eh? United were massively more successful and played easily as many games if not more during his time at Liverpool. So on this, no I dont see what you mean. Its just excuses, they dont hold up. Tottenham, Newcastle, they looked ****ed at the end of the season tbh, like they had given up.
Jesus Christ, EXACTLY! Which makes Rafa's excuse invalid. We were playing 3x more than our rivals for fourth spot, giving them a major advantage.
Stop taking all the strikers! We've only got 1 If Chelsea's mid link up well with Torres and/or NEW STRIKER (probably Cavani or Llorente) then I think we could see a new record in Goals Scored for the PL in 1 season.
Technically Rafa being Rafa made his point invalid. You have played as many games for years drogs, it doesnt wash. You may well pay the same number of games this season, it wont wash then either. If they were doing 80 hours a week hard labour then it might wash, these are millionaire footballers trained to the highest physical levels imaginable playing for 270 minutes a week. Theres like 10000 minutes in a week ( Burger king says so ). Oh and before someone says what about training, I know, its such hard work isnt it, I mean none pros all over the world dont play for teams in their spare time on top of a full working week. I see where you are coming from btw and understand your point, its just not an excuse
This isn't my point though, my point is that our RIVALS FOR FOURTH WERE NOT. I can't make it any clearer and will not argue any more about this, it's unbelievably infuriating
Not as infuriating as people paid huge sums and doing one of the best jobs in the world complaining about their work load. thats positively ****ing infuriating.
Read somewhere the other day , possibly on Chelsea website, that Lucas Piazon will be in the 1st team squad this season.
That's an exaggeration. There might have been the odd occasion when you played 3 in 7 days but in general it'd have been 2 a week when you had a midweek game. Under Di Matteo you had 5 games more than us because of the Champions League, plus the final which was a week after the season ended so doesn't really count. We played an equal amount of FA Cup games if you count our abandoned game against Bolton and had the same in the league also. From RDM taking over until the end of the Premier League season you played 20 matches to our 15 so don't act like you were playing 3 games a week to our 1, it isn't even close to 2:1. Did it affect you in the league? Of course, you played weakened line ups in some fixtures but if you start making excuses for that we have the excuse of spending £100mill less on wages and far less on transfers too. Then it all gets a bit ifs and buts. Regardless you're still going to be playing more games than us this season so RDM will have to learn not to let the League form go to **** whilst you have a few extra games.
