Who still thinks we have had a good transfer window?

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Cest Advocaat said:
I'm sorry mate but this had been coming for a year not s few weeks. That team was barely good enough last season and scraped through by a bollock skin. We havent significantly improved IMO and indeed looked worse. Dick is a top manager but he can't make a decent team from this squad, including 3 of the 5 signings thus far.

I'd hoped that after begging him to stay they would have invested £35m+ in 4 or 5 team changing players but with only 22 days remaining, I can't see them coming now. We might get in another one or two but we've pissed about again in the transfer market all summer and have missed the boat again.

I'll be delighted go be proved wrong but just as with the transfer windows in recent years I'm not holding my breath. Yet another season of false promises and false dawns beckons.
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Last season has gone mate, it's over, finished with. Yes we were ****e then as well, but most of last season was spent under another manager, not DA. I don't understand your argument mate, last season bears no relevance to this one.

IMO DA ****ed up yesterday, he went with the wrong partnership at the back, he should have went with JOS & Kaboul imo. Coates is a disaster waiting to happen and i just don't see what others see in him.

Wickham? what difference would he have made yesterday if as you suggest, we kept him till a replacement was found? none Cest and you and i both know it. I agree with the policy but Wickham wouldn't have made any difference to yesterdays performance.
We also don't know what targets DA had specified or indeed how much money is available, you're guessing and so am i, but i'm not going to judge Congertons or DA dealings until the window is shut. DA was on the radio a couple of days ago suggesting that new signings were being worked on but it wasn't his policy to go into details until a deal is done. He doesn't strike me as a liar so i'll take the bloke at his word and wait and see what transpires over the next few weeks.
 
Funky Dick said:
Mate, the post when we lose line was tongue in cheek, the title of you thread refers to the window in past tense when it's not even close to closing. It's a bit of ribbing that's all.

I don't tackle the problems? Again, you've not been reading my posts, get informed instead of repeatedly making wrong assumptions. Unfortunately the window doesn't close at the start of the season(it should), it closes on September the 1st. Doom 'merchiants' keep telling everyone they're 'realists'. expecting us to have all our business done before the season starts. that is not realism, it's delusion, 95%of teams a still looking to strengthen. They all have targets and landing those targets entertain numerous issues beyond the control of the buying clubs. If every team could have all their targets in before today don't you think they would have us included? Of course, but that's not the reality. I want the right players not the wrong players, if that means we have to wait a bit so be it as panic buying rarely works.

Are you happy with M'Vila? You haven't mentioned him. A player who can receive, retain and distribute the ball with great composure as well as being defensively sound? Valued close to 20 million two seasons ago? It's a two levels up acquisition provided Dick can manage him. Add another midfielder with Attacking prowess and a good forward and we should be right for early safety(my expectations this season), otherwise it's a relegation battle down to the wire. I've been saying all this for months you know? Still blinkered? I'll piss and whine if it hasn't happened when the closes but not until as I realise recruitment is intricate with lots of it out of our hands and signings will almost ever never fall neatly into place before the season starts. That's reality.
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Typical Cest, bolting midway through a chat and then ignoring it all together the next day. Ignorant or what? Dummy spitting baby.
 
I think so far it's been ok, I think Lens will be a great addition and M'Villa is top quality in CM if he can get himself right. Kaboul adds pace and a slight increase in quality at CB.
Matthews tbh looks similar to Jones but the latter was dire yesterday so perhaps the younger, quicker lad will prove a shrewd move.

I think people are losing some perspective, we had a shocking day yesterday but it happens occasionally and will continue to. We don't need to rip up the playbook after every defeat. We have the same pts as Arsenal and Spurs and one fewer than Chelsea!

I do think we need another AM and a striker though but I fully expect that Dick feels the same.

I'd like to see a big man who can hold the ball up, allowing our quick wingers and full backs to play off him.
 
Dick_Fring said:
I think so far it's been ok, I think Lens will be a great addition and M'Villa is top quality in CM if he can get himself right. Kaboul adds pace and a slight increase in quality at CB.
Matthews tbh looks similar to Jones but the latter was dire yesterday so perhaps the younger, quicker lad will prove a shrewd move.

I think people are losing some perspective, we had a shocking day yesterday but it happens occasionally and will continue to. We don't need to rip up the playbook after every defeat. We have the same pts as Arsenal and Spurs and one fewer than Chelsea!

I do think we need another AM and a striker though but I fully expect that Dick feels the same.

I'd like to see a big man who can hold the ball up, allowing our quick wingers and full backs to play off him.
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I agree. But like I said earlier, we can't expect the machine to work until all the parts are fitted, we're two parts short of getting the engine running adequatelty. There's some back up parts needed for LB too imo.
 
We're still above arsenal...

I think we've had a decent window. Signed players in needed positions but have anothe 4 weeks of it left! Lens better than what we had. As Advocaat said we need a striker. I think 3 or 4 for £25m is unrealistic. 1 big money I think and at least one loan is what'll happen
 
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Funky Dick said:
I agree. But like I said earlier, we can't expect the machine to work until all the parts are fitted, we're two parts short of getting the engine running adequatelty. There's some back up parts needed for LB too imo.
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Yea. PVA badly needs competition and coaching! He's rapid though.
Target man, ACM and MVILLA in for Defoe Catts and Rodwell.(4231)
 
Dick_Fring said:
I think so far it's been ok, I think Lens will be a great addition and M'Villa is top quality in CM if he can get himself right. Kaboul adds pace and a slight increase in quality at CB.
Matthews tbh looks similar to Jones but the latter was dire yesterday so perhaps the younger, quicker lad will prove a shrewd move.

I think people are losing some perspective, we had a shocking day yesterday but it happens occasionally and will continue to. We don't need to rip up the playbook after every defeat. We have the same pts as Arsenal and Spurs and one fewer than Chelsea!

I do think we need another AM and a striker though but I fully expect that Dick feels the same.

I'd like to see a big man who can hold the ball up, allowing our quick wingers and full backs to play off him.
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Definitely this, it's early doors yet and far from panic stations as others would suggest. It's a 'work in progress' and we'll have a much better idea of what to expect by the end of the month.
 
smithy in nl said:
Defoe scored and almost got a second. He's not the problem here
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I rate Defoe but do you think he fits the system?
I'm not too unhappy if he stays in and we get more creativity behind/around him.
BUT, one option is to bench him and play around a proper lone striker, who we'd have to buy of course!
 
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The midfield and defence were completely to blame. The strikers scored 2 goals away from home I can't ask for more than that.
 
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Bexinio said:
The midfield and defence were completely to blame. The strikers scored 2 goals away from home I can't ask for more than that.
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Can't u remember last season already? You can't be naive enough to think we are a fully functioning attacking unit, just cos we got a couple of goals v Leicester?!
 
Dick_Fring said:
Can't u remember last season already? You can't be naive enough to think we are a fully functioning attacking unit, just cos we got a couple of goals v Leicester?!
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If he is anything like me, he will have done his very best to ensure he never remembers last season ever again!
 
Dick_Fring said:
I rate Defoe but do you think he fits the system?
I'm not too unhappy if he stays in and we get more creativity behind/around him.
BUT, one option is to bench him and play around a proper lone striker, who we'd have to buy of course!
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I think he will score goals no matter the system we're getting better players so better delivery, more chances more goals IMO :)
 
smithy in nl said:
I think he will score goals no matter the system we're getting better players so better delivery, more chances more goals IMO :)
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So long as he's in the middle and gets the service Defoe will always pop up with decisive goals. He disappears in games, always has done and always scored goals with it, he makes runs, it's a matter of playing him in, the service needs to see hit those runs.
 
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