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  1. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    Rayner is a disappointment. I love her backstory but instead of fighting the culture at Westminster, she became part of it.

    Arron Banks - Throughout his life he's gotten into legal trouble and managed to get clear. Got hoyed out of boarding school for various reasons including nicking lead off school buildings. He was moved to another school and expelled again.

    Got involved in various businesses, setting up 37 via Company House using variations of his own name. Landed on his feet selling insurance, started successful insurance businesses and sold them.

    Named in the Panama Papers as a shareholder of African Strategic Resources Limited. He denied it. Paid a government minister to guarantee mining rights in Lesotho. He denied it was a bribe. Funded a £350,000 campaign for Thesele Maseribane after a military coup in Lesotho.

    Reporters discovered he was involved in diamond mining in southern Africa and Belize, connections to companies based in Gibraltar and the Isle of Man, close links with the Belizean Prime minister. Banks denied owning a company in Belize or seeking to avoid UK tax "via any device".

    (I'd rather say his presence is a curse on UK politics but I don't want to get sued)

    Farage - Snake oil salesman who sets up his stall, causes chaos then runs off to the USA. Works closely with Aaron Banks.

    Tice - If Banks was a Bond Villain, Tice would be his number two. Made his money in debt and property. Ditched his wife of 24 years for Isabel Oakenshott.

    Baroness Mone
    Another businessperson who selflessly got into politics and ended up looking guilty as a puppy next to a pile of poo. Used her first husband's expertise to get into ladies underwear. Used another fella to buy useless medical equipment for a government contract and pocketed the cash.

    The King
    Perennial victim. Terrible husband to Diana Spencer. Richest McDonald's dad in living history. Married a bulldog in lipstick and called her the Queen.
     
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  2. Northumberland Rocks

    Northumberland Rocks Well-Known Member

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    Agree with most but the King should set an example and pay fair tax like the rest of us
     
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  3. Northumberland Rocks

    Northumberland Rocks Well-Known Member

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    I like the cut of your jib
     
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  4. Northumberland Rocks

    Northumberland Rocks Well-Known Member

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    You don’t like facts you Reform lads. :) If you are on benefits Vic Mr Tice is coming after you.

    call me whatever but not a mag.
     
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  5. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a Monarchist but i'm sure the Royal Family are paying Tax these days.... I'm guessing they pay more than the likes of the Billionaires who have very clever accounts.... TBH..not that I could care less
     
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  6. Northumberland Rocks

    Northumberland Rocks Well-Known Member

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    Well the royals haven’t.

    There are plenty having a go at Raynor but the King is a very rich man and should be paying fair tax like the rest of us and he is not. It sets an appalling example.
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    They voluntarily pay some and fair play to them but they are also exempt from the big bits. They’re not just downloading palaces, they are also businesses so why wouldn’t they pay inheritance ? It would be significant and make the Rayner stamp duty look like a piss in an ocean. Strange that people won’t address this when we’re all hard up.
     
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  8. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Don't know the answer, but I guess if we live in a Parliamentary Democracy with a King as Head of State, this is a price we pay... I'm conflicted in a way, I'm no Royalist but the Idea of having a President appalls me.. Status quo is fine... The Monarchy have zero power...i'm OK with that
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    They do intervene in decisions but that’s a different argument. I doe think we should have an elected heard of state personally. I do think they should pay fair taxation - there’s an article here
    https://taxjustice.uk/blog/the-royal-family-must-be-made-to-pay-more-tax/
     
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  10. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I can't think of one single event either the late Queen or the King has interfered with Parliament ...but I could be wrong
    The risk of having a Trump or Biden like Figure will leave our country in a mess. But its all about opinion I guess.
     
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  11. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Don’t want to go down that rabbit hole but if they use the sovereign grant and royal land to make extra income they should pay inheritance tax on inherited wealth
     
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    Wait isn't this the same Nigel Farrage who got his partner to buy a home last year to avoid paying additional tax on a second home?

    Be careful what you wish for, he's a massive hypocritical snake that bloke.
     
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    I am confused. Which tax does the king dodge?

    I had always thought the monarch was not obliged to pay any tax, as per law. But in 1993 the monarchy and duchy of cornwall entered into a voluntary agreement to pay tax.
     
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  14. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    Stories coming out that his GB News wage is paid into his company, so he only pays 25% corporation tax on profits instead of 40% income tax, and expenses.
     
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    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    Leaving this thread, had innocent replies removed from replying to the elite political clown
     
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  17. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

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    I am not racist. I have no problem with legal immigration. The country would be a lot worse off without it.
    Until one of the major parties stop the boats, I will probably vote reform, despite voting labour for the vast majority of my life.
    These parasites, many of whom will be terrorists, rapists, drug dealers, murderers, have no passports and cannot be background checked, need to be detained. An estimated 1 MILLION illegals are in the country.
    How much does this cost a year?
    I will vote for a party which will not only stop the boats, but repatriate them all.
    I’m aware that we have a large section of British criminals. That’s our problem and should be sorted in house. No need to import any more.
    If that’s the shoes an extreme right wing lunatic wears, I’ll firmly jump in them.
     
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  18. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I said earlier that they do voluntarily pay income tax and fair play to them. However it their land becomes business and enables them to be cash rich and we don’t tax their cash inheritance it isn’t right.
     
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  19. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Parasites isn’t exactly the language of a fair thinker mind. I agree we need to manage safety but we could also view that many legitimate seeking a safer better life are potential athletes, hard workers and good neighbours. That’s your choice.
    Which of Reforms other policies do you support out of interest?
     
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  20. LBW

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    Rylan Clark pretty much summed up the feelings of many people on live TV
    The usual lefty brigade jumped all over him shouting right wing, racist etc.
    Nothing he said was racist or far right, just common sense
     
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