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The clearout hasn`t finished yet!

Gus` first priority was to stop the rot & it looks as if he`s on the way to doing that. It was never going to be easy.

Ellis was/is naturally wary given the previous debacles.

We`re on the right track and the next two windows will give a better indication of where we`re going.

Overall, steady progress, and, given the shambles over the last few seasons, probably as much as we can reasonably hope for.
 
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MoN's win % is skewed by the face we had a 10 game run where where a goal kick was considered a half chance such was our luck and momentum also as has been stated Gust has inherited the worst SAFC team any of those managers had to work with excluding Mick of course. I honestly can't believe there are people even on the fence but that is due to my own perception that Gus is our 1st manager since Reidy who knows how to get his team to play football. Last year he said something along the lines of if we go down we'll go down passing the ball and I thought yeah I'm patient enough to give a man like poyet time to build the club where as I was not as patient for Brucey and Keane to squander millions to stand still.
 
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On board. Just wish he'd have the financial backing bruce n keane got as he wipes the floor with them coaching wise.

If he had Everton or Spurs squad to work with theyd be comfortably top 4 imo.
 
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Like all managers, he will be judged on the results from a team that HE builds.

Personally, I have a confidence within me that during this transfer window and the following Summer window, he will get his team.

Just get an out-and-out scorer within the next three weeks and I think we'll finish in the top half !!
 
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MrRAWhite said:
Talking of win percentages can be a tad misleading without other data being placed along side it. For example, I would like to see the loss percentage placed alongside it, as I believe that Gus's record would look far more favourable due to the large amount of draws we have had..
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Agreed, thought I'd post it as it was relevant but it is only half a painting. I mean, Bruce, Keane and to a lesser extent MoN were bank rolled and given what they wanted. The article doesn't even mention that.
 
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Funky said:
Taken from We Are Wearside.

Gus Poyet recently reached 50 league games in charge of Sunderland. He took over in October 2013 with the club on just 1 point from the first 8 games of the season. Poyet then steadied the ship and pulled of the Great Escape to keep SAFC in the Premier League. His second season at the club has started solid but unspectacular. How does Poyet’s first 50 league games in charge compare to Sunderland’s previous managers in the Premier League?
Poyet’s Record after 50 League games:
Won:- 13 (26%)
Drew:- 18 (36%)
Lost:- 19 (38%)
Scored:- 52
Conceded:- 71
(Sunderland have played 1 league game since Poyet reached 50 games, the 3-2 defeat at Man City.)
Premier League Managers Win%
Poyet is only the 5th manager to reach 50 Premier League games for Sunderland and his win percentage is the lowest:
Peter Reid:- 18 wins in 50 (36%)
Roy Keane:- 15 wins in 50 (30%)
Steve Bruce:- 14 wins in 50 (28%)
Martin O’Neill:- 16 wins in 50 (32%)
Gus Poyet:- 13 wins in 50 (26%)
Overall Premier League Record
Sunderland have had 9 permanent managers in the Premier League and Gus Poyet currently has the 5th best win percentage.
Peter Reid:- 53 wins in 161 (33%)
Howard Wilkinson:- 2 wins in 20 (10%)
Mick McCarthy:- 2 wins in 37 (5%)
Roy Keane:- 15 wins in 52 (28%)
Ricky Sbragia:- 5 wins in 23 (22%)
Steve Bruce:- 25 wins in 89 (28%)
Martin O’Neill:- 16 wins in 55 (29%)
Paolo Di Canio:- 2 wins in 12 (17%)
Gus Poyet:- 13 wins in 51 (25%)
Poyet’s Overall Record
Gus Poyet has also done fantastically well in the cup competitions, getting to a cup final and a quarter final in his first season. Here is Poyet’s record including cup games:
Played:- 63
Won:- 21 (33%)
Drew:- 18 (29%)
Lost:- 24 (38%)
Scored:- 69
Conceded:- 85
How do you rate Gus Poyet’s first 50 league games in charge? Is he the right man to take Sunderland forward?
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I think it's worth pondering the circumstances in which each manager inherited, Other managers inherited a mess but Gus' squad was back end of a domino effect imo. There's no doubt in my mind Gus inherited a shambles of a squad both in terms of quality and confidence in what's an unforgiving league. But he's gone about it in the right way. Like any good manager he made making us hard to beat a priority, unfortunately with Short being careful with purse strings it's going to take time to evolve our attacking half of the squad into a dangerous set up. Having pacy fullbacks available again should help give us more of a threat in the mean time.

Overall I'm happy with Gus
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An interesting read that. Shocking how few long term managers we've had. 2 seasons tops with Short. Our best success came with our longest serving manager. Is that because he did well he stayed on or because he stayed on he did well? Considering he got us relegated would a manager survive relegation these days?
 
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concrete tony said:
An interesting read that. Shocking how few long term managers we've had. 2 seasons tops with Short. Our best success came with our longest serving manager. Is that because he did well he stayed on or because he stayed on he did well? Considering he got us relegated would a manager survive relegation these days?
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I think Gus would have simply because we were expected to be relegated when he arrived. Might even survive if it happened this season.
Might be wrong but it seems like Short is taking a steadier approach now.
 
He's my favourite Sunderland boss in my lifetime as a fan (1988-present)

He is a genuine coach in that he makes people better players. contrast the player he's turned Catts into at 26 with the player he was under Bruce. It's very very difficult to improve a player at that stage of his career. Stevie Bruce bought him yes but Gus has made him into the top class DM he now is. SB the spender, GP the coach.

Also he has that arrogance/swagger to leave you in no doubt who's in charge. He still manages to come across really well as a bloke and I just find myself nodding in agreement when I hear him speak (contrast with Bruce "we had 7 injuries today and that made a big difference. But I'm not making excuses."!!! Yes you are, Steve. You literally are.)

As u can gather I'm a big fan and I am certain he is the man to whom we should be giving time at the club. There are dissenters though and I pray their voices don't get too loud.
 
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There's a few examples of his man management skills.

Johnson (January 2014/Walcott's injury)

Getting Fletcher "angry"

Getting the Hulk (Catts) to control his anger and channel it (Avengers Assemble style)

He also seems to have got a level out of Larsson I genuinely didnt think existed. Could evem say the same about Oshea who I have been a long time critic of but has been great recently.

He also got the Mannone/Pantilimon situation spot on.
 
DAPARKERSAFC said:
There's a few examples of his man management skills.

Johnson (January 2014/Walcott's injury)

Getting Fletcher "angry"

Getting the Hulk (Catts) to control his anger and channel it (Avengers Assemble style)

He also seems to have got a level out of Larsson I genuinely didnt think existed. Could evem say the same about Oshea who I have been a long time critic of but has been great recently.

He also got the Mannone/Pantilimon situation spot on.
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Forgot about those two. Especially Larsson. <doh>

Massive improvement.

Definitely overlooked management skills there mind. Has to be.
 
Big fan of Gus, he's not totally proven but there has to be an element of faith in supporting a team, especially ours! If the question was who could do better with what we've got or who would I prefer then no one comes to mind at all. Hope and optimism for the future with solid performances is the best we can hope for just now imo and for me he's delivering.Love his work and get genuinely excited for matches, despite the sometimes staid performances, because we have a decent chance of a result and players fulfilling all of their potential. As I say what more can you ask for?
 
hettonist said:
Big fan of Gus, he's not totally proven but there has to be an element of faith in supporting a team, especially ours! If the question was who could do better with what we've got or who would I prefer then no one comes to mind at all. Hope and optimism for the future with solid performances is the best we can hope for just now imo and for me he's delivering.Love his work and get genuinely excited for matches, despite the sometimes staid performances, because we have a decent chance of a result and players fulfilling all of their potential. As I say what more can you ask for?
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Was talking to my lad about this very thing earlier today. When you look at the list of candidates for the mags job, they`re a pretty sorry lot. There`s only McLaren worth a second thought really. Nobody out there I would think as being a big step up from Gus.
 
grandpops said:
Was talking to my lad about this very thing earlier today. When you look at the list of candidates for the mags job, they`re a pretty sorry lot. There`s only McLaren worth a second thought really. Nobody out there I would think as being a big step up from Gus.
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I am worried he might leave us if he isn't backed and seems to spend a good bit of time pointing out the shortcomings of his squad in a fairly nice way. Of course if Gus is as good as I think he is he will prove it and move on but just hope we give him the chance and tools to prove how good he is.
Love your posts by the way Grandpops, Am too busy to post myself much but have a scan as and when I can, top banter from you and many others mate cheers
 
hettonist said:
I am worried he might leave us if he isn't backed and seems to spend a good bit of time pointing out the shortcomings of his squad in a fairly nice way. Of course if Gus is as good as I think he is he will prove it and move on but just hope we give him the chance and tools to prove how good he is.
Love your posts by the way Grandpops, Am too busy to post myself much but have a scan as and when I can, top banter from you and many others mate cheers
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That`s nice, thank you.:emoticon-0103-cool:

I`ll say me piece. Plenty will agree, plenty won`t. That`s what makes it interesting.

Post what you can when you can mate. The more who contribute the better it gets. <ok>












And so do the fights <devil>
 
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