Who is more credible?

and there it is, rsort to namecalling when you have nothing else to say

 

I wouldnt say all and sundry, the likes of you toby and PNP dont constitute all and sundry
and tbh I can live with it

 

Why is this still going on?
It should have died long ago.

 

You are a total ****wit,you are ruining all the good work that Huth does to show the city of Stoke in a good way.

 

But it allows you to clarify for yourself. You're a big boy Fan.

you said 'I did clarify' now you are saying different, this is what I mean about changing boundaries. Is it becasue you forget?


But 'may' changes the meaning.
have never really argued that, have said you acknowledged the possibility, which you did

<swerve>

?


I used the black gangster stereotype because it's a lot more current than the Krays or even the Mafia, you dick. When young kids try and act hard, they usually dress like black gangsters and talk like them.

Or because you are racist and see blacks as gangsters and thugs. It was pretty clear [/B]
You're Asian anyway, not black.
Is that why you dont see me as british?
Git!?! How old are you?
I didnt want to swear

Am I? You obviously don't know much about Nick Griffin
I know he has racist views, same as you

Find me some examples. To make it easy, find me the two on this thread
the black talk, and me not being british and for a third didnt you say france was smelly

Same difference.
yeah difference, come on you have an english degree ffs

You might do. But I wasn't talking about your comments. I was talking about who you defend.
Offering another side isnt defending, however I do defend when its clearly wrong

But banter should still be a two-way thing. It usually isn't with you. You're the only one having fun.
A 2 way thing that people can choose to engage in. I think also you will find that some of my threads are quite often long.

Tolerant?? dont make me laugh. you just trying to fit in so follow the crowd. Even some of your arguments are taken from others
I have stated my views on homosexuality but apart from toby who is abusive and I know it winds him up I havent been homophobic towards any individual

 

Is it just me, or does anyone else think '**** it, I can't be bothered anymore' when the thread is full of 'quotes' that have to be read numerous times?

I mean, it was said just then, I don't have dementia...wtf?

 

Free Brian Shivers

 

You seem quite happy to use online dictionaries when it suits you though. You did it with 'clarify' for example.
Yes I botheed to post it, you specifically say things like 'if you need clarification let me know' I ask and you post a link
Fact is you change boundaries and forget what you have said. Then start accusations to try and justify
Bottom line you said 'I did clarify' and you lied, you didnt. Now this is all about changing the argument to try and squirm out of it.
You are a liar


No, you've repeatedly said 'so acknowledged then', to which I have replied 'no, acknowledged the possibility'. But you seem to have finally got the message thank fuck.

Liar and I quote
-You have said you dont believe in the existence of a god/creator then conceded it may be a possibility.
-as per your own quote you 'concede' to the possibility of a creator having existed

Thats just twice where I have said you concede to the possibility

sorry but youre not very good at this

You swerved/dodged/avoided that point.
Liar my response was
-plenty, however I have quoted you specifically and you refuse to accept it, so I will let you look it up yourself


No, not that. You were trying to act hard, I compared you to a silly kid to highlight how much of a dick you looked. Like when you said you could take an SAS soldier in a scrap
Lies again
I said: Furthermore a racist attack on the street is personal and in your face, my threads in the main are general and not an attack as such. Even the army ones werent an attack, they were current affairs
to which you responded:
- Oh yes, the previous thread. Where you were at great pains to show everyone what a badass you are. You don't take no ****, some fool diss yo bredren, you'll kill that mo'fo etc. Fan the gangster
clearly racist and now you are bringing in irrelevant points to squirm out of it

I never said you weren't British. Just that you are anti-British.
you said most people on here are british and I wind them up by being anti british


Why? It's like when you say 'fooked' and 'shoite'. Everybody knows you mean 'fucked' and 'shite' but you are allowed to swear on here.
Thats not a direct swear generally. for example you 'something is fooked isnt resorting to insults, but as yoiu seem keen to do 'you dick' is and often a sign of frustration or losing the argument


What are these racist views of mine then?
This has been answered multiple times

Black talk wasn't racist. It was mocking wannabes like you. Never said you weren't British. As for France, I don't believe the French are a race. It would be xenophobia, if it wasn't just a joke. Toby lived in France for a long time so it was a playful dig. Being a stranger to banter you wouldn't get this.
ah I see so if you are racist or xenophobic its banter. However I am anti british etc
good to see that you see xenophobioa and racism as playful digs


Do you not know what 'same difference' means?
yes I do. Its things that are NOT the same but share similar values
so apples and oranges are NOT the same yet are a fruit
and now the context
you said I was making an acccusation, I said I was asking a question, to which you said
- It was the way you used it. The same as if I was to say to you "Are you ******ed?" or "Are you stupid?"

I responded - what I said was 'so now its about you being racist as well as ageist?' so not 'are you...?'

Therefore they are both questions but not the same as per the definition



You defend Muslims WHATEVER the issue Fan. You're like a blinkered football fan who never accept when his own team have done wrong. Pretty sad really.
whats sad is you are lying again.
If the posts are anti muslim and wrong then I defend, but I do this with global warming etc too
I think your prejudices are coming through. With you for example I wasnt defending the guys at your work place leaving cups lying around etc in fact I condemned it. However I EXPLAINED the reasons behind why it is done. This is not defending just your prejudice not allowing you to understand

In fact, that's not the only way your religion is like football support. You're a gloryhunter for United and a gloryhunter for Islam. You're fond of going on about it being the world's fastest growing faith. Just a bandwagon-jumper all-round really aren't you?
why yes, its so obvious you are out doing yourself in the stupidity stakes
Its proving my point about you, you are now resorting to ABU arguments, sad really

Long and boring.
The beauty of this forum is if you find them so you can ignore, interestingly you always come back

Like I've just said, my bandwagon-jumping skills are nothing to yours.
thats original, I say you are projecting and following others and this is your response?

Which arguments are taken from others?
well in your last post you mentioned UTD and glory hunting, that is taken from the ABU's

Your views on homosexuality are homophobic Fan, like I said.[/QUOTE]
what are my views on homosexuality Jip? and I dot want assumptions and ignorant rants I want proof

PS how can posts on religion (islam mainky but not exclusively) be anti british? I would venture this is a deep lying racism/prejudice in you
basically implying that Islam = brown/foreign people

 

Can you two please argue with single sentance postings, it'll be easier to keep up

 

Or, they could just shut the **** up.

 

Still cannot believe Fan was a teacher - there must be loads of kids still seeking counselling or trying to be weaned off heroin as a result of their having to listen to him

 

This, a million times this.

 

You do realise that Krege has never published his findings, don't you?
Apparently me saying something doesn't prove anything, but Krege saying something does.
You're taking the word of one holocaust denier over the word of thousands, including those that confessed to the killings themselves.
The man's not even qualified to have done the work that he's claimed to have done.
You believe him because you want to believe him.

Franz was released in 1993. He died in 1998.
His superior and the camp commander during most of the it's operational existence was Franz Stangl, who died after a year in prison.
His predecessor was Irmfried Eberl, who hanged himself after his capture in 1948, to avoid trial.
No doubt you'll find some way to weave all of that into your 'conspiracy', though.

It's not a discussion.
You never accept that you're wrong about anything, despite the ton of evidence that says that you are.
People have pointed out immense errors in things that you've posted, time and again, yet you post the same stuff as fact and fail to acknowledge any glaring inaccuracies.

Where's the name calling?
I was merely pointing out the accuracy of your profile name.

 

Cheers, i think?

 

RE: Fan

Just so you know whose research it is that you're supporting, without ever actually having seen the findings, as they're unpublished, I thought I'd better remind you.

Richard Krege is an Australian air-traffic controller, whose research was funded by the Institute for Historical Review.
The IHR was found in 1978 by David McCalden, a former member of the British National Front and Willis Carto, an American patriot and white separatist.
Happy to be standing shoulder-to-shoulder with such delightful people, are we?

The reason that you're aware of their publishings is due to their links with Ahmed Rami.
They seem to feel that certain sections of the extremist Islam community might share their fanatical hatred of Jews, for some reason.

 

I would like to see an answer to this.

 

I don't believe you. Source?