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Who is more credible?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Sam Axe, Jan 17, 2012.

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Who is more credible?

  1. Jip Jaap Stam

  2. thefanwithnoname

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  1. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Please show me in that thread where I was 'proved wrong'?

    If you mean that you posted 'anything different' (whatever that means?), repeating the same thing over and over without looking at what I posted will annoy me <ok>

    When I was working without a PC I generally just posted a few insults on the commute back because all the threads were finished already and I had to read through loads of ****e that I reacted to, whereas you ruin every thread that you post on <ok>
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    No changed boundaries. I merely expanded. You said the pious are protected from suffering. I then said, 'so, if what you say is true, pious people have never suffered?' No boundary change, just a logical assumption based on what you said. Simple really. Face it Fan, you said something silly then had to adjust it when you were backed into a corner.

    expanded and thereby changed the boundaries. The initial discussion was about suffering. You expanded into pain, misery etc (see YOUR quote I posted above) so my answer changed to reflect that. Its all there

    May = might = possibility of.

    yes therby acknowledging, its not difficult

    No change either, as I've never said 'there never was a creator' anyway.

    Have explained AGAIn above re creator/god. you are being obtuse. You have said you dont believe in god on various threads

    Ok, you are countering. Just very poorly. As for insensitive, you will see that is followed by 'or'.
    I would say effectively, using your quotes and you are just revisiting old ground. I noticed the 'or just dont see th erelevance of insensitive


    I don't think that at all. I don't know why it seems that way. Just because people choose to respond, doesn't mean you're not trying to wind them up. Pretty sad really, a bloke apparently in his 40s trying to cause rows on the internet.

    so how can they be done to irritate as per your assertion if they can simply be ignored. same with wummery
    As mod you should know this is GC, general chat. If I wanted to row I would go to say LFC board and start something etc. But if you will look at my last post (arsenal board re wenger) it was well recieved

    as for the age thing how is that relevant? or is that the extent of your arguments from now on?
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    So you admit to resorting to insults and then go and insult me. If you dont like my threads dont post on them
     
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  4. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    FFS you're not reading anything there are you? You just pick a few words out and try to spin it, and you claim to be good at debating <doh>

    I was proving you wrong in that GW thread and you just ignored what I was saying whilst repeating the same nonsense, which is why I got frustrated. See my point? Probably not...

    And that last bit you posted <doh> I admitted to only posting a few random insults for the couple of months I was working at Pinewood, since I couldn't use the PC there for not606. I also only insulted a few ****wits that deserve it: ER, Kirun, you, ***gy-Sam,...

    But yet again you twisted what I said to suit your feeble argument, give it up <ok>
     
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  5. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    What a silly point. So if someone can be ignored it can have no effect? Racist abuse would irritate many ethnic minorities, but they can ignore it too. Let's make it legal again <doh>

    As for the LFC board analogy, wumming doesn't just have to be about football. Most people on here are British, and you try to wind them up with anti-British remarks.

    The age thing is relevant. You're apparently old enough to know better.
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    and he reorts to type by insulting AGAIN

    <doh>

    honestly I try with you but in the end you are a ................
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Pain and misery are synonyms of suffering Fan.
    Been through this as well. Although I used those as examples there were other terms as highlighted in your quotes
    Synonyms dont necessarily mean exactly the same. As I said I can be in misery without pain and and have pain but not be suffering


    Not according to the definition you provided earlier, which specified 'truth' not 'possibility of truth'. Scuppered by your own source Fan.

    what definition would that be? bottom line you acknowledged the existence of a creator


    I don't believe god exists. But I have never claimed that a creator has never existed at any point. Which is all I conceded MIGHT be the case.

    As explained in that very thread creator = god in that discussion. I spelt that out for you.
    You have said you dont believe in the existence of a god/creator then conceded it may be a possibility.
    acknowledged. Thankyou


    I would say very ineffectively. Repeat and ignore, repeat and ignore ad nauseam, the Fan defence mechanism.

    I see what your doing, whats the name? you are reflecting your personna/personality onto me.
    This is what I was saying about you adopting other peoples arguments as your own despite what is in front of you. You are i think trying too hard to be 'liked' or fit in I preferred you when you were yourself



    What a silly point. So if someone can be ignored it can have no effect? Racist abuse would irritate many ethnic minorities, but they can ignore it too. Let's make it legal again

    silly because you dont understand it or maybe to continue being devils advocate.
    Racist abuse does in deed irritate ethnic minorities and many non minorities too. Fact is those who dislike it dont necessarily go on BNP website to argue.
    As for the legal argument I had to laugh, I know youir avatar is a sherrifs badge etc but I have not posted anything illegal on here (despite you and some others engaging in casual racism on more than a few occassions)


    As for the LFC board analogy, wumming doesn't just have to be about football. Most people on here are British, and you try to wind them up with anti-British remarks.

    so now its about you being racist as well as ageist? I am British and how does a belief in god or not threads relate to britishness? or like PNP do you believe muslim = brown
    Sorry but you are just being a numpty now. If its to get a rise out of me you failed


    The age thing is relevant. You're apparently old enough to know better.
    Yes know better so teaching you whipper snappers, you should pay attention and might learn something
     
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  8. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Why do people keep arguing with this imbecile? <laugh>

    He's clearly not the full schilling.

    Oh and Hatem/Jacky, give it up pal. It's been six months since 9/11 being destroyed by Godzilla. Stop trying to paint yourself as some sort of intellectual and stop the bitching.
     
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  9. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    No, you are too old to be getting your kicks from winding people up on the internet. It's the behaviour of a teenager ffs.
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Take it from me then Fan. I was doing the typing, and I meant the same thing by pain, suffering and misery. You're just dodging the fact you made a ridiculous opening claim.
    which is precisely why I asked you to clarify and define, something you have consistently done
    not only that but i explained how i defined them, you havent challenged that but insist on repeating ad nauseum



    This definition you provided: "acknowledge = Accept or admit the existence or truth of.
    Synonyms: admit - recognize - confess - avow - concede - grant"

    The crucial word there is in red. Notice how it doesn't say 'truth or possibility of truth'. Like I said, ****ed by your own source.

    i am sure you mentioned you had an english degree, did you not pay attention?
    as per your own quote you 'concede' to the possibility of a creator having existed. thereby acknowledging the existence which is my claim,
    tou have therefore accepted/admitted to the possibility of the truth of there being a creator. i have never said when or where


    Concede it may have existed in the past. Very different to acknowledging the definite current existence of a creator, Fan.

    I dont think I have argued that you conceded this point. The fact is I was arguing about a creator having to be present for the creation of the universe. You conceded to that

    It's called 'projecting' Fan, but not something I'm guilty of I can assure you. As for being liked, if that's the case then that's nice. But again, I assure you I don't try to be liked. Maybe I'm just likeable.

    Thanks, it was late I was tired and forgot. It just seems to me that your desire to argue without belief in your argument (as in what you have said to me re 'youre not going to win this' or ' i dont actually believe that', the desire to comment how you didnt see (insert whistle smiley) on threads that are controversial etc point to a sense of insecurity

    So if someone racially abuses someone on the street, they should just ignore it? That's what you're saying basically Fan. That you can't wind someone up if they can ignore it.
    No thats what you are saying. I have clarified my position on that in a previous thread, for me I would not walk away if it was insulting etc.
    However this is NOT the street, this is a forum where the identities are hidden. As I said in the BNP example, people know the content now so dont go on if it offends. Same with my threads, if you believe they irritate simply ignore
    Furthermore a racist attack on the street is personal and in your face, my threads in the main are general and not an attack as such. Even the army ones werent an attack, they were current affairs


    As for legal argument, what the **** are you on about? I was making any threats ffs. You must be very paranoid.

    you mentioned making racism legal again and what I was commenting was that you dont have that authority, besides you and a few others do engage in it despite it being illegal, i dont do paranoia


    Where was I being racist? I wasn't talking about your religious threads, I was talking about your anti-British comments on other threads. You've made plenty of them Fan, and you know it. Again, very paranoid. It seems you are unravelling a little.
    you said :
    Most people on here are British, and you try to wind them up with anti-British remarks
    I asked the question if you were being racist, not the same as an accusation (english degree eh?). I then pointed out that I WAS british.
    There are plenty on here who think muslim = brown = foreign/non british, wanted to clarify if you were in that category
    My threads are not anti british, they are often anti institution etc and as a british person its my right to expose injustice etc


    No, you are too old to be getting your kicks from winding people up on the internet. It's the behaviour of a teenager ffs.

    As I said I am not wumming, I only write what I believe. I dont get involved in say the porn stuff, or the Irish debates etc although the Irish debates would be a perfect place to wum imo.
    and also I would like to ask why you believe age has anything to do with having a laugh anyway, not sure what you think this place is
     
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  11. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    <laugh> Fan is creeping up on Jip in the scoring stakes.

    C'mon the Muslims <ok>
     
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  12. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    I know I feel loved

    How do you check who voted?

    I have a feeling 8 of Jips votes are possibly ST with his multiple accounts and a couple of others <laugh>

    which means technically I am winning <laugh>

    no one has said what the winner gets though
     
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  13. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Fan:

    ALF HOOKER, Gasheadseamge79, jolls, JONATHAN P ACWORTH, The Hatem-Bomb, thefanwithnoname, VenomPD


    Jip:

    cyclonic111, Gambol, Glesgabhoy67, Go Go Yellowscreen, jerseymackem, jOkEr, Oh Titus She Said No, Pompey_Fan_London, SaintsForTheWin, Sam Axe, SaTan's Evil Twin, Shameless, Toby, uttercunt2, Warm Pouch
     
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  14. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    You ****in squealer <laugh>
     
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  15. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Hmm, let's check...

    Voted for Jip: cyclonic111, Gambol, Glesgabhoy67, Go Go Yellowscreen, jerseymackem, jOkEr, Oh Titus She Said No, Pompey_Fan_London, SaintsForTheWin, Sam Axe, SaTan's Evil Twin, Shameless, Toby, uttercunt2, Warm Pouch

    Voted for thefuckwitthatcan'tread: ALF HOOKER, Gasheadseamge79, jolls, JONATHAN P ACWORTH, The Hatem-Bomb, thefanwithnoname, VenomPD

    So you've got an anti-semite, a racist illiterate ****wit, a virgin with a pathetic moustache, 2 *****s, a random guy that's never posted on GC and YOU <doh>
     
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  16. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    You voted for Jip though. That negates every single other vote, even from Good ****s like Gambol.

    You're a pathetic self-obsessed wee ****worm. You took 6 years to complete and IT degree, then bragged about it. <doh>
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    gamby you two face so and so <grr>

    there i was being groomed by you yet you voted against me
     
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  18. Toby

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    You know that's bullshit, give up <doh>
     
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  19. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    I think this is a place to have a little lighthearted banter. When you stick to that, you're alright. But winding people up for your own amusement is not the same thing, it's just sad.
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Toby in insult shocker

    how many of them are your accounts toby? I see Jip got the ****ta vote <laugh>
     
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