Who is more credible?

How abut you print the whole quote and the point it responded to
To resort to partial and out of context quoting is I feel a new low for you
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Here is something interesting for you to research. The 6million figure for Jews. See if you can find how many times in history this figure has been mentioned before WW2 and the Nazi's

IF you do the research tell me is it coincidence?
If not then surely you need to give up your athiest beliefs and become a jew, and I will join you

 

I don't know about you, but I don't need to see someone's face to know they are losing their cool.
The question wasnt about seeing someones face, it was about someone on the internet, if you can 'know' or 'see' that then you have a gift
You claim I make up my life, how do you know all I say isnt made up?
consistency not your strong point?
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Being a laughing stock must be great entertainment.
That is just your claim/assertion. Yes I get a bit of stick froma few which is normal, some irrelevant ST etc
I think this is just a defence mechanism for you, throw allegations to try and get away from the discussion

Like when you said "A victory for me I think".
I think, not 'I won' etc and as I have said I tend to do like for like, in that I dont swear unless sworn at etc
In this case as I know it means so much with you repeatedly saying it, its appropriate and obviously got to you

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what are you denying you are prejudiced now?

 

Yes, I'm looking silly and not the person that's denying something that's been admitted on tape.
Choudary clearly slipped up by revealing his contact with terrorists.
He's not going to keep openly admitting it now, is he?

So which is it?
Did he make an admission that should see him tried and convicted or did he answer incorrectly due to a time lapse?
You seem to be shifting from one to the other, depending on which suits your current argument.

Section 41 has nothing to do with anything that would allow him to be charged.
It would have allowed him to be held without charge for a short period of time.

The first case was clearly open and shut, yet you're still crying about it.
The second is too vague.
Who did he communicate with and what acts did he encourage them to commit?
You don't seem to be able to answer that, despite it being asked repeatedly.

I don't remember you explaining whether you were a member of a banned organisation with links to terrorism or not. Link, please.
I'd say it's very relevant, too.

And this covenant wouldn't affect either Choudary or those that involved in sending bombs to the US from Yemen, would it?

It's not my opinion.
He openly admits to acts and opinions that make him a hate-monger and a religious lunatic and you've admitted what he says in that interview.
He's also connected to a ton of people who have been charged with various offences and he's been a member of at least one organisation that's been banned for it's links to terrorism.

So you've got absolutely no reason to believe that there's been the slightest difference between how her thesis has been treated and the way that any other thesis is?
Making baseless claims, again?

(Quote completed and bold applied to the part which you chose to edit out)

Krege is an air-traffic controller. That's not in question, is it?
That's his job, but I've not seen anything listing his formal engineering qualifications.

Trying to suggest that someone who's a neo-Nazi and a holocaust denier is equally as biased as someone who feels emotion when reading about the murder of thousands of people is ridiculous.
One holds obvious and strong bias, whilst the other has said nothing that even suggests any.

You keep claiming that it hasn't been published, yet we've already established that you have no idea whether it has or not.

Krege released his preliminary findings in German and French, but they don't even make sense without any claims about the holocaust.
Have you read them?

The initial investigation by Judge Lukaszkiewicz found "countless human bones" mixed in with ashes and sand.
The areas covered would allow for the disposal of around the amount that's been suggested.
Krege somehow came to the conclusion that there were no significant disturbances of the ground there, though.

I wouldn't want to risk linking with the places that you're reading this crap from, either.
When I put parts of your claims into Google it brought up Stormfront, again.
Where are you getting these figures from? You're making these claims, but how do we know that they're accurate?

Where is it, then? Link, please.

So you've been reading sites like this one, then:
http://www.theholohoax.com/

No anti-Semitism there, then!
I'm not sure why you're still pretending that you're not a holocaust denier and an anti-Semite, as it's laughably obvious that you are.

 

*Dour Teeside Accent*

Day 9 in the Big Brother house, and Fan has been doing the late shift with his inane bollocks again...

 

The initial investigation by Judge Lukaszkiewicz found "countless human bones" mixed in with ashes and sand.
The areas covered would allow for the disposal of around the amount that's been suggested.
Krege somehow came to the conclusion that there were no significant disturbances of the ground there, though.
actually you are wrong
Judge lukaszkiewiscz's true account doesnt tie in with the treblinka holocaust claims. According to him 60% of the dead died from disease and illness and the figure was nowhere near even 700k, never mind the 850k currently accepted
Incidentally it took 30 years for his report to be published as his findings dont match the 'accepted' figures

I wouldn't want to risk linking with the places that you're reading this crap from, either.
When I put parts of your claims into Google it brought up Stormfront, again.
Where are you getting these figures from? You're making these claims, but how do we know that they're accurate?

I am using a variety of sources, however stormfront hasnt been one of them as far as I know.
However if you notice the size of the 'find' was quoted by yourself.
I have done the hard work and given you the figures, surely you need to check them out yourself and reply or accept,
If anything there must be a counter claim on a website that is acceptable to you?

Where is it, then? Link, please.
you are getting lazy. Its offered by NAFCASH.
is this where you dismiss this as it is noe nazi? as I said who offers it is irrelevan fact is its there, and there is precedent for courts to make them pay it on production of evidence
So you've been reading sites like this one, then:
http://www.theholohoax.com/
ctually no I havent read that one. However you havent understood it it seems
and anyway IF the claims are correct does the source matter?
Now the question is does the torah mention the death of 6 million jews, and has that figure been used before WW2?
If no fair enough, if yes then whatever the source it is accurate
No anti-Semitism there, then!
I'm not sure why you're still pretending that you're not a holocaust denier and an anti-Semite, as it's laughably obvious that you are.[/QUOTE]
Do you make these claims to divert from the topic?
How is it anti semetic if I am quoting jewish text?
either prove me wrong or stop responding with baseless claims

 

You said it was a 'faceless' forum.
no I said 'how you can tell that on a faceless forum I dont know? '


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Your tone, your language, your repetition and your garbled (more than usual) typing made it obvious.
tone? on an internet forum? you are gifted , FYI my typing is always shoite and as I am constantly remined re grammar, punctuation etc how you figured all that is truly amazing. of course you could just be a liar

The vast majority on here think you are a loon Fan. You can deny it all you like, but it's there for all to see.
correction the same few think that, and as I said it bothers me not one Iota. unlike you I am not on here to please others

Weak response Fan. If I start typing in baby-talk, will you copy that too?
of course it is, are you saying you werent?

Nobody is without prejudice. But I don't have the prejudices you're accusing me of.

Its obvious from your tone, your language and the fact that you backtrack that you do

 

And you're getting this information from where, exactly?
It appears to contradict the translation of what he actually wrote.

What sources? Why aren't you quoting any of them?
You haven't done any of this work yourself, you're merely quoting from an unnamed source.

NAFCASH was the site that I was quoting for the $54k!
http://nafcash.com/
The guy that runs it is called Greg Gerdes and he's quite open about his anti-Semitism.

I don't know the Torah well.
Perhaps you could enlighten me as to it's content, by providing a link to this claim about the 6 million figure?

 

By referring to this as a "faceless forum" you are clearly saying the forum is faceless
Your idiocy is beginning to beggar belief Fan.
That english degree is REALLY working, reread and then comment

Tone doesn't have to be audible Fan. Also your grammar, spelling etc got even worse and you started to miss words out, such was your rush to post.
Not really, its simply a case of me always doing it, you are just raising it to raise strawmen arguments

It's not a few Fan, as you well know. You're the biggest joke on here.
It is a few and its the same old same old. You have changed your tune to 'fit in' well done

Baby-talk is 'goo-goo ga-ga' and the like. I can't recall ever typing that.
Baby talk also includes tall tales, making up stuff and crying, which it appears you are doing

You're right Fan, you do copy others a lot. Probably why you're a Muslim (most-practiced religion worldwide) Man United (best supported football club worldwide) follower.[/QUOTE]

very good now you have gone from baby talk to childish, childish insults and islamophobia and nationalism, which in itself is a form of racism well done for proving me right

Ps if you look at this forum, I think you will find I am in the minority in more ways than one. You have contradicted yourself can you see where?

 

Look it up you, or is this a case of me making a claim/statement that you have no comeback for, so you want to muddy the waters?

I await your 'you are avoiding quote next'

I also noticed you missed the first chunk, It woulnt let me post it as one response hence 2, this one and the one above it which you ignored

I also think you are just going around in circles now and trying to disrupt the debate and its points by not actually addressing but nit picking/word play

What I have noticed in our last 2 discussions (this one and the nutter one) is how much of a hypocrite you are for the following reasons:

You criticise me for using neo nazi sites (although not all are such) yet are happy to quote Islamophobic ones eg Answering Islam
You dont like Krege as he has failed to publish a complete report, yet use Colls who hasnt either
You use aristotle et al when it suits, but we have 'moved on' when I use them
You scoffed at wiki, but rely heavily on it
You scoff at krege as a denier, yet rule out Coll as a sympathiser
You rule out Krege sonar report who is an electrical engineer, yet accept Coll who is PHD student
You belittle and scoff at the likes of zakir naik, yet used and stuck up for the likes of sam shamoun who is in fact a creationist, yet you scoff at other creationists

as they say whats up with that?

 

[video=youtube;9UMedd03JCA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMedd03JCA[/video]

 

[video=youtube;E-dh6mkIsZk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-dh6mkIsZk[/video]

 

What you are saying is wrong.
Read the translation yourself, rather than reading dubious extracts on holocaust denial and 'historical revision' sites.

I'm not disputing the size of the grave, but you're clearly not doing the work yourself, as you've said that you got the information from various sources.
What sources?

I've posted you a link to the actual site itself, where the prize is stated as $54k.
I've already pointed out the fine print in the supposed 'reward', too.

You're making the claim.
You back it up.

Sorry, I didn't realise that I'd missed out a comment.
I'll go back to it after this one, assuming that it's still relevant.

I don't use Answering Islam.
Krege is making baseless claims and has repeatedly refused to publish his paper. Colls hasn't made any such refusal, but I only quoted her in response to Krege.
You accepted Krege's without any evidence, so you should accept Colls, too. You don't though, for some reason.
When do I 'use' Aristotle? I pointed out that things supposedly unknown at the time that the Quran was written were already known by him, amongst others.
Wiki is not proof of anything. It's useful when someone has no vague idea what the subject their discussing is about, though.
Feeling empathy for the victims of mass murder is not comparable to holocaust denial. Utterly ludicrous.
I scoff at Naik because he's an idiot. Even you claim not to agree with him, for fear of being tainted by association. When did I even discuss Sam Shamoun?

 

He slipped up by admitting the truth. There wasn't any misunderstanding there.
I've repeatedly answered your question about why he hasn't been charged.

Ridiculous. It's completely clear what was asked and what the answer was. You're being ludicrous in defending him, frankly.

What would be the point in arresting Choudary and the releasing him a couple of days later?
Unless there was an immediate threat or any prospect of him being charged, then it would be pointless.
You don't appear to understand section 41, so I won't bother with the rest of the quotes that include it.

I'm well aware that you've claimed to be a friend of Choudary, but that doesn't say anything about your membership of Al-Muhajiroun.
As several of the people being discussed were also members of this organisation, I'd say that it's extremely relevant.

The issue was actually people outside of the US attacking the country.
It followed the mail bomb attacks in post from Yemen, as I stated earlier when I posted the video clip.

You can vague admissions to crimes without facing prosecution.
You could even admit to killing someone and not get charged with anything.
Unless you specify who and when the admission is worthless.
You'd certainly face investigation, but Choudary is already being investigated anyway.

You're not part of an organisation of rapist or tax thieves, though.
You also don't go around justifying their actions and promoting their causes.

You're the one making the claims.
Prove them or admit that you're wrong.
Don't ask me to do your work for you.

Completely changes the tone of what she was saying.

Let's assume that you're correct.
That doesn't sound like he's much of an expert in forensic archaeology, does it?
What qualifies him to conduct the survey that he claims to have done and what qualifies him to determine the results of that survey?

You're equating being a normal person who has an emotional response to mass murder as being the equivalent of a holocaust denying neo-Nazi.
Ludicrous.
Krege's 'work' was funded by the Adelaide Institute, an anti-Semitic group that don't believe in AIDS.

I haven't accepted either yet, preferring to agree with the original verdict.
You do accept Krege's though, despite a total lack of evidence and the obvious flaws in the small amount that he's been willing to claim.
No significant soil disturbance? Doesn't tally with the Judge's evidence about pits, bomb holes and digging sites, does it?

See above.
They don't even make sense without any form of discussion about the deaths at Treblinka.

 

You know that ,The fan with no name? That`s you that is, he`s your hero, you learned how to type from him he`s your favourite poster.