Getting points for posting to your thread is one way the Admin people encourage people to start threads - it has nothing to do with giving ownership. The Mods have certain duties and one of these is closing / deleting threads- it works and if it ain't broke don't fix it. It is one reason for having Mods Just because a "starter" is fed up with/ or satisfied with a thread does not mean that everyone else who has posted it should see it closed or deleted. I do not delete posts or threads as I view it as a form of censorship and if I knew someone would delete a thread when it suited them it would discourage me from posting - not something the site Admin will want As Norway says - threads that are "answered" naturally fall down the pages never to be seen again - there is no need to delete them As with Norway H - I feel we have to agree to disagree.
I can think why anyone would create too much of a fuss about loosing their posts. Its not like they are a deep meaningfull essays or amazing scientific discoveries. I agree with H, but i think not allowing a thread creator to delete their own work, only allowing a mod to do it seems to be almost eliteism. In the case of the first Borehamwood thread yesterday, why shouldn't H be able to delete her thread? There is nothing on there we will miss out on and it will just clutter up the site. What if i post a thread praising Scott Loach asking how well he will do this year and then (god forbid) he leaves the very next day? The thread is useless and irrelevent now and i might want to delete it, but if i werent a mod i couldnt, but there is no reason i shouldnt. There was never a problem on the original 606 so why would there be now?
BHD old threads or unpopular threads will dive down into the achives quick enough! I really dont think there is a problem here , Where we do have a problem is if one of our members has a good idea that warrants passing on ,that member should at least get some sort of acknowledgement , even if its a thanks but no thanks message! Not to respond at all is bad manners and rude imo! I appreciate Mick cant read pm\s from 12000 members , but it is our job to be a conduit both ways! I feel sad when I`m told that people are not happy with this site anymore! For that means we have a fundamental problem to fix!!
BHD - I think you underestimate the strength of feeling of many of our posters - they take their time to write something and would be forgiven for objecting to it being deleted for no reason. Time and again posters have railed against censorship - and the deletion of their posts - it was one of the largest complaints on 606. At least on here we do not have random deletions. The only threads I have closed are those opened by mistake where before any discussion gets going the originator has asked me to delete. What is the problem when you have 3 very helpful Mods in asking for them to delete a thread. Can you not see that this whole debate kicked off due to the accidental deletion of a thread - a deliberate deletion would be very unpopular. We have two solutions - the Mod to act or the thread to be "redundant" and slide down the pages. What is the problem that needs fixing? If it ain't bust don't fix it.
One other thing - this thread has now been going for 4 days and not a single person has joined in to say that people should be able to pull their own threads. If there is not demand then again leave well enough alone - there are many other issues I would rather Mick focuses on - not least getting the double club match threads up and running. Why as a Mod would we champion a single voice (sorry Hornette - no offence meant) - our job is not to support individual causes but to ensure the smooth running of the site. H is perfectly capable of arguing her own case in PMs be it to Mick or Syd and I am sure she will pursue it to the extent she feels it is important.
You do make a good point Leo the needs of the many ..........etc ,However I do feel we havent advertised(if you like)enough that if people do have good ideas in the interests of the site, then they should forward them to a mod who can then discuss it on the mod board then pass it on to Mick or decide its a no go! either way we go back to the original poster and let them know what has happened and the reasoning why! This seems to me to be simple courtesy and good manners!
OK - but as Mods if we are to raise something as a "good idea in the interest of the site" then it needs to be that - unless something has a reasonable ( who defines that?) level of support we risk innundating the Mod Board with things that not even our own members would support. On this I feel that at least two of our Mods don't even agree with the suggestion so we should not be taking it to the Mod Board - otherwise we will look foolish when one Mod is in favour and another argues against. I have always taken the view that we should enable individual members to know who to address through the PM system so they can champion their own point of view. We are "facilitators" not "champions" Now it may be that a post on the Mod Board in general terms asking how a member who is not getting a reply from an Admin person can feel more valued is a way forward. Mick should know that it is only good manners to at least acknowledge PMs. If he cnnot then via the Mod board he can make his position clear
I just think that there has to be a way of getting in touch with "the powers that be" to ask questions or to suggest things. At the moment there is no way to do that effectively. Norway and I have posted on the mod forum but to no avail. We could PM Mick, but that ends up clogging up his inbox and according to sources there is no reply anyway.
I don't think we should have raised the specific issue that H suggested on the Mod forum - what if it turns out the 240 of the 242 Watford members oppose it? Unless and until an idea has been properly debated and found to have support then I think it is wrong for our Mods to Champion it. See separate thread I have now started which I think deals with a realistic way forward - considering the site has 12,000 members so that even an acknowledgement of someone's PM from Mick is not realistic
