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Where's Poch?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by RedandWhiteManofKent, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. RedandWhiteManofKent

    RedandWhiteManofKent Well-Known Member

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    Big Sam 8th -a bit contraversial but i get where you are coming from as to what he has achieved in the past
     
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  2. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    We will not tolerate sexism, racism or ageism on this message board.
     
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  3. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Can't stand him and wouldn't really want him here at all, but he's achieved a fair bit, especially during his time at Bolton.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Two out of three ain't bad!
     
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  5. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    So even though he had the highest points total of a Spurs side in PL history he is still level with Redknapp?
     
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  6. saintlyhero

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    Mourinho, Wenger & Moyes would be my top 3 based premier league achievement over a sustained period.

    Pellegrini stands on his own as he has done great things in Spain but yet to start in this country.

    My bottom three would be Hughes, Pardew and Allardyce.
    Big Sam is in there as I just don't like his style of football and whilst it may keep teams up comfortably it won't take you beyond that and he represents a footballing dinosaur who holds this countries game back.

    Jol is decent, Holloway and Bruce ok. Di Canio yet to be seriously tested at this level.

    All the rest I think are pretty talented younger managers with various levels of experience and have big seasons ahead of them for their future careers.
    My personal choice as the best from that group would be Steve Clarke
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Strangely, I had managed to wipe from my mind the realisation that Holloway is back in the PL. I find him annoying, though am willing to concede that he is a 'character' and a decent manager. Wenger is a good manager, but seems to have some blind spot when forging a club together. Unless he is successful this year, Arsenal will surely lose patience with him. Moyes was a great manager at Everton, though the jury is out on how he will cope with a post-Ferguson Manchester United. Still best three managers (for me) are Mourinho, Moyes and Wenger.
     
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  8. mowgli

    mowgli Well-Known Member

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    Some interesting thoughts though. It assumes a manager is only as good as the team he has. Would it not be true to say that if you or I managed Manchester United for a season we would be lucky to finish in the top half of the table? Similarly, a manager coming in and replacing Harry is capable of great things. It's what he can draw out of the players in the motivational sense, and out of the team tactically. Isn't this why Pochettino has won so many admirers? He has used basically the same team as Nigel had but they now ooze confidence and he has them playing a style of football which is the envy of many of our closest rivals.
     
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  9. CBK

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    Rating managers?

    God sake someone start the season now before the threads get worse
     
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  10. SuperSchneid

    SuperSchneid Well-Known Member

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    1. Jose Mourinho
    2. Arsene Wenger
    3. Manuel Pellegrini
    4. David Moyes
    5. Andre Villas-Boas
    6. Michael Laudrup
    7. Brendan Rodgers
    8. Roberto Martinez
    9. Steve Clarke
    10. Alan Pardew
    11. Mauricio Pochettino
    12. Sam Allardyce
    13. Paul Lambert
    14. Chris Hughton
    15. Ian Holloway
    16. Martin Jol
    17. Paulo Di Canio
    18. Malky Mackay
    19. Mark Hughes
    20. Steve Bruce

    Probably be a bit different if i was completely un-biased, tried to put feeling aside. Very suprrised people are putting MP so highly, really has not done much yet, pretty good at Espanyol and had half a season in the prem. But i cant talk, really Sam Allardyce should be higher been successful everywhere, just couldnt put myself to do it.
     
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  11. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    While the rest of you are just throwing names at a wall, I have developed a highly scientific means of evaluating manager competence, and as it turns out Poch wins rather handily. The full list:

    Mauricio Pochettino
    Paulo Di Canio
    Manuel Pellegrini
    Jose Mourinho
    Michael Laudrup
    Andre Villas Boas
    Roberto Martinez
    Ian Holloway
    Arsene Wenger
    David Moyes
    Steve Bruce
    Alan Pardew
    Steve Clarke
    Paul Lambert
    Sam Allardyce
    Brendan Rodgers
    Martin Jol
    Mark Hughes
    Malky Mackay
    Chris Hughton
     
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  12. Dan

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    Vowels?
     
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  13. Schad

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    Yep. It was the only quantifiable category I could think of where Poch stood head-and-shoulders above the rest, and thus it's clearly the most important measure of a manager's worth.
     
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  14. Dan

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    Fran's attractiveness scale works too (though I'd still put Mourinho and AVB ahead of him).
     
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  15. Joe!

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    I'm not going to rank the managers because that's impossible, but I will say two things:

    - Michael Laudrup is my favourite
    - Paolo Di Canio is better than most people think
     
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  16. Schad

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    Too subjective; you can probably separate five or six of them from the pack, but then it's a matter of taste.

    Plus, Laudrup wins easily.
     
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  17. Nicola Cortese

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    Corrected you. Thank me later.
     
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  18. Nicola Cortese

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    You guys just love Poch because he is foreign (must be good according to media hype) and he is good looking.
     
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  19. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Hi Banana.
     
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  20. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    Must be why I loved Nigel, as well; he's foreign (well, for me) and looks like a particularly cheerful accountant.
     
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