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2020VisionofLeeds
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Ok so I disagree with a hell of a lot here and I'm quite bored so here it goes.
1) how do you know how good BPF is? Have you seen him play, I haven't. He could be incredibly good. Personally I have seen enough of silvestri to think he isn't good enough for a promotion team but at the same time not a priority for where we are currently.
2) I know you love the Italians at the club but how can you honestly honestly say "keep bellusci". He makes terrible terrible mistakes all the time, I defended him when he first came to the club but now I just think he can't head a ball, he's not very fast, his tackles on the ground are all last ditch, and he doesn't particularly read the game very well either. Add onto that his incredible mistakes, the one he made in that game where silvestri ended up getting sent off as a result was possibly the most embarrassing thing I have ever seen a professional footballer do, it can't be defended, that alone should see him out of the club. He's disastrous. Imo. Cooper is ok but need better for the first 11 if we are ever to get promoted.
3) I don't know what to say when you go on about the whole of the midfield needs to be shipped out. Cook is our best player and as a result worth a lot of money. Diagouraga seems quite decent himself. We have a lot of players in there that are of the same sort of ability below that which is a problem but I've always felt our managers have never balanced the midfield well. If we get rid of cook then we will have gone a long way backwards imo.
4) 442 is a bad formation for the championship I think personally. But then I'm never big on putting so much pressure into finding the right formation. See what players we have, play our best players in their proper positions and suit a formation around that. I think 4-5-1/4-3-3 suits us best. We need better attacking wingers which is a big problem of ours.
5) wood was our best striker hands down last season, needs help but will get better and we can't really condemn him when we create so few chances. His movement is actually pretty decent to get into good positions. He has a hell of a strike on him as well.
6) bellusci scored that free kick 2 years ago. We need better, but agree about corners.
7) desperately need a new capatain. Desperately.
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Got to say I enjoy LLs posts
But I don't know why because I disagree with 99%
On this one, I thought the 'get rid of Cook' one and 'Cellino's a jolly good fellow' were classics of their kind
Nice to see you're enjoying my comments 2020, you enjoyed them on JA too if I remember correctly.
You're entitled to disagree, I don't write my comments in such a way that I try and force others to change their views to mine. There's been a few instances when I've been right, and the odd occasion where I got it wrong.......it happens.
Let me ask you this realistic question in regards to Cook,
Cook rose to fame in the media cos of Redders loud shouting about him and Mowatt. Media reported some big prem teams were looking at Cook and Mowatt, they probably decided they weren't what they were looking for as they all backed off.
Byram leapfrogged them both, irrespective of what's happening at WHU.
Taylor has now also leap frogged Cook and Mowatt as our hottest property, the YEP poll claimed Taylor as our player of season, very closely followed by Berardi.
Cook himself mentioned he didn't think he had a very good season so,
In your eyes, what impact has Cook brought to the team, what is it that makes him stand out as our best player, in your opinion of course.
2020VisionofLeeds
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I wasn't joking LL I do enjoy your comments. I've given JA up by the way
Short answer on Cook - hes not our best but he has the most potential imho
I don't think you have to analyse him too much, in most people's opinion Cook is a cracking young midfielder who we need to keep hold of and secure on an improved, extended contract. He's definitely not one of our players who needs replacing, he's one that should be first on the teamsheet along with Taylor and Berardi
Ok so I disagree with a hell of a lot here and I'm quite bored so here it goes.
1) how do you know how good BPF is? Have you seen him play, I haven't. He could be incredibly good. Personally I have seen enough of silvestri to think he isn't good enough for a promotion team but at the same time not a priority for where we are currently.
2) I know you love the Italians at the club but how can you honestly honestly say "keep bellusci". He makes terrible terrible mistakes all the time, I defended him when he first came to the club but now I just think he can't head a ball, he's not very fast, his tackles on the ground are all last ditch, and he doesn't particularly read the game very well either. Add onto that his incredible mistakes, the one he made in that game where silvestri ended up getting sent off as a result was possibly the most embarrassing thing I have ever seen a professional footballer do, it can't be defended, that alone should see him out of the club. He's disastrous. Imo. Cooper is ok but need better for the first 11 if we are ever to get promoted.
3) I don't know what to say when you go on about the whole of the midfield needs to be shipped out. Cook is our best player and as a result worth a lot of money. Diagouraga seems quite decent himself. We have a lot of players in there that are of the same sort of ability below that which is a problem but I've always felt our managers have never balanced the midfield well. If we get rid of cook then we will have gone a long way backwards imo.
4) 442 is a bad formation for the championship I think personally. But then I'm never big on putting so much pressure into finding the right formation. See what players we have, play our best players in their proper positions and suit a formation around that. I think 4-5-1/4-3-3 suits us best. We need better attacking wingers which is a big problem of ours.
5) wood was our best striker hands down last season, needs help but will get better and we can't really condemn him when we create so few chances. His movement is actually pretty decent to get into good positions. He has a hell of a strike on him as well.
6) bellusci scored that free kick 2 years ago. We need better, but agree about corners.
7) desperately need a new capatain. Desperately.
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Hey'up Josh, no malice as usual.
I'll gladly reply to your comments, but first let me ask you a question,
All banter aside, why is that some, including yourself occasionally, reply to my comments by attacking and attempting to degrade me personally because I have a different opinion to them, but don't offer anything up by way of friendly debate or discussion themselves, discussion wise you're an exception; they seem to write in such a way that their opinion is the only one that's right and I, and others should change and align our opinion with there's; they tried that on JA, and they were unsuccessfull too..........it ain't going to happen.
You have yours, which I respect, and I have mine and others have theirs, we are all different people who have differing or similar opinions.
1) I personally think if BPF was ready to unseat Silvestri he would've done it by now.
2) It's not a case of me loving the Italians, but looking at what they have to offer and the potential they bring to team, Cellino also brought in Berardi and Cooper.
Bellusci is a player you can't call a namby pamby that's for sure, and I agree he's a little bit wild at times but he's played some good and great games for us and saved a few goals. Bellusci's made mistakes, but so have every player in team, some on a regular basis.
In regards to Bellusci's free kick, yes it was a year and half ago, but what a free kick and what a goal; I look at the positives, not the negatives unless I see consistent inconsistencies like Wootton etc. Bellusci would be a good regular free kick taker cos Mowatt seems to have lost it.
I accept people have different opinions of him, as they do about all our players, but I personally think he's been good for us in defence, much better than Bamba.
3) We've pretty much had the same midfield for 1 and 1/2 seasons, and look where we still are. They don't track back, they don't provide defence splitting passes like other teams do against us and they leave to many holes allowing the opposition to steam roll and run right through us, that includes Cook and Mowatt too.
4) I personally think 4-4-2 is our best formation, whenever we've had a lone striker we've scored very few goals and, since Redders started it with Morison, look where we are still.
5) Wood for me wasn't our best striker last season, he may have got 13 goals but Antenucci is the better striker, and had he played regular full games I believe he would've had between 15 and 20 goals, it's a pity imo that we let the better striker go.
9) Cellino's done nothing to make me personally hate him, irrespective of what others see. Bringing in the Italian to the board and Monk as coach was a good move on his part.
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...do you have an headache, try some paracetamol.........
When it comes down to it josh, we're all entitled to air our own personal opinions, and I really don't give a whistlers hoot how many want too gang up on me, I ain't budging.....
Antenucci was never our best striker, not one of the coaches he played under at Leeds thought so hence why he spent so much time on the bench. I think I'd take their judgement over a supporter who do does a player analysis after listening to games on the radio.
LL, my less than enthusiastic responses to some of your posts are because you're either an idiot, which I don't believe to be the case, or a blatant WUM desperate for a reaction. Nothing personal, I just find the endless pro-Cellino/all things Italian crap boring, and insulting.
im on semi holiday now mukka till sept. and have better things to doOh I think it did...
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We can only imagine how this board would look today if Barnsley hadn't spanked your sorry arses.
im on semi holiday now mukka till sept. and have better things to do
Your semi has been on holiday for years!
Dont let us keep you...
Your semi has been on holiday for years!
Dont let us keep you...
youll be linked with all and sundry
Cellino wont sign the expensive ones quoting they were not right for this club.
youll bring in a couple of crap loans with a view to buy with money you aint got
Monkey will say he has the final word on who comes in and a load of dross will arrive from over here.
Google and wiki will be busy with you all checking out the quality player you just got in that no fooker has heard of
Cellino will be spouting a load of bollox and Eire will believe every word of it
Ristac will say i will give Monkey a chance then by pre-season will give birth to kittens
you will sell your best player to help pay for the ER purchase
you lot will be putting leeds in your top six in Daves top six game
wont miss much will i
what i miss i can catch up on this time next year when you do it all over again like last year and the year before that
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youll be linked with all and sundry
Cellino wont sign the expensive ones quoting they were not right for this club.
youll bring in a couple of crap loans with a view to buy with money you aint got
Monkey will say he has the final word on who comes in and a load of dross will arrive from over here.
Google and wiki will be busy with you all checking out the quality player you just got in that no fooker has heard of
Cellino will be spouting a load of bollox and Eire will believe every word of it
Ristac will say i will give Monkey a chance then by pre-season will give birth to kittens
you will sell your best player to help pay for the ER purchase
you lot will be putting leeds in your top six in Daves top six game
wont miss much will i
what i miss i can catch up on this time next year when you do it all over again like last year and the year before that
Only change might be that you won't be predicting your lot escaping the pub league in an upward direction this time round.
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It's as bad as the anti-Cellino agenda held by certain 606ers......
They can't help being 100% right.
2020VisionofLeeds
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2020VisionofLeeds
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