Where do we sit in the true premier league?

Upward and onward.

 

Newcastle
Manchester Utd
Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Everton (just)
Stoke (just)
Sunderland(just)
Aston Villa
Fulham
West Brom
Q.P.R
Wolves
Bolton
Wigan
Blackburn
Swansea
Norwich

 

IMO Spurs are better than Arsenal. Better squad and better first team and I think it will show at the end of the season. If you have to make a team out of both arsenal and spurs players, only RVP and maybe Sagna would get in to the team.

Friedal
Walker(Sagna) King Gallas Assou-Ekotto
Lennon Sandro/Parker Modric Bale
RVP
Adebayor

 

Think i'd have Wilshere over Sandro and parker and Santos of Assou-Ekotto, other than that you're right imo.

 

Forgot about Wilshire, but Sandro is to Spurs what Tiote is to us. But Santos? Good for Brazil but on his performances so far I wouldn't put him above Assou-Ekotto.

 

Tbh I'm not too sure about Santos either but I think Assou-Ekotto is poor

 

In terms of pure staring 11 quality:

Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Newcastle
The rest

I can try to be pessimistic just to try and seem unbiased but I'd struggle.

Everton have a very powerful and possibly more consistant defence that ours, but they seem to have little in attack now. They even seem to be using Tim Cahill out of position as a striker. Them losing Arteta is like us losing Cabaye or Tiote. An absolute vital player.

Stoke? No. Stoke are very strange and I can't figure out why. They're so hard to beat at home but they ****ING SUCK away. In fact they're arguably the worse away team in the league. They either have major confidence issues away from home, or there is something about their home ground which gives them a considerable advantage. Either way, I just really can't see where the quality is. Some people seem to forget that they finished 13th last season, so I don't know why everyone presumes they're suddenly such a good team.

Sunderland? The only people I'd probably take out of their starting 11 right now is their left and right back whilst Santon is still injured. Possibly Larsson as well. Obviously everyone will be biased to their own teams, but I think the evidence that we can put out a better starting 11 which plays better football is mounting on a weekly basis. Our defence is rock solid, our midfield is superb (Cabaye and Tiote compared to Gardner and Vaughan/Cattermole? Come on) and our attack of Best and Ba has scored far more goals.

Mind you, I think some people underestimate Villa. They're up there around us in this sort of comparison.

 

We're fourth in the only league that matters.