When Will Starmer Go?

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When Starmer does go there needs to be a proper leadership election, not a coronation like Gordon Brown had.
 
When Starmer does go there needs to be a proper leadership election, not a coronation like Gordon Brown had.

Likely the Party will shift to the left. Angela Rayner.
It's curious that nobody is even trying to claim the centre ground anymore.
Starmer boosted his majority in 2024 by doing just that.
People fed up with the Tories saw him as a safe moderate alternative, in a way that Corbyn would never have been seen as.

Politics is polarising at an alarming rate.
 
I agree. In normal times I would be considered as slightly left of centre to use the political jargon. Now according to left wing of the labour party I am more or less a fascist. The Green party even suggest some of my views mean that I should not even allowed to think them. I am finding it very hard to align myself with any political party. Maybe I should start my own?
 
With regard to the Prime Minister, for the life of me if he were so certain he'd not misled parliment he should have referred himself to the Privileges Committee. That would have shot the Tories fox. That he didn't and then employed a 3 line whip rather than allowing a free vote seems to suggest to me that hr wasn't confident he would be exonerated.
 
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Likely the Party will shift to the left. Angela Rayner.
It's curious that nobody is even trying to claim the centre ground anymore.
Starmer boosted his majority in 2024 by doing just that.
People fed up with the Tories saw him as a safe moderate alternative, in a way that Corbyn would never have been seen as.

Politics is polarising at an alarming rate.
Starmer got the gig as a reaction to Corbyn, who was a reaction to Blair. We will only get a decent government if we get a leader like John Smith who includes the most able, from whatever end of the spectrum. The Tories have similar issues after ejecting anyone with pro-EU views. At least with Reform and the Greens you know where they stand.
 
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Starmer got the gig as a reaction to Corbyn, who was a reaction to Blair. We will only get a decent government if we get a leader like John Smith who includes the most able, from whatever end of the spectrum. The Tories have similar issues after ejecting anyone with pro-EU views. At least with Reform and the Greens you know where they stand.
Which is why support for those two parties is now relatively so high.

Anyone who trusts the Labour Party or the Tories needs a good check up at the shrink’s.
 
Badenoch got one thing right this week, Starmer has wasted his majority. They should have gone radical. Nationlised utility companies, railways (slowly doing so) and get drilled ng in n the North Sea, and start fracking.
 
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Seems he's not going yet. He may well be the least bad option, which says something about the state of politics.
 
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Just argued with my wife as to whether he should go or not. Where we do agree on is the disdain we have for Farage
 
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The full horror of the local elections is yet to be revealed to Labour MP's.
Reform UK might gain over 1,500 seats.

We are looking at the astonishing prospect of a Prime Minister with a massive Commons majority, who is powerless. Incapable of leadership.
He is toxic.
The longer he remains as Prime Minister, surrounded by his Westminster bubble chums, the worse matters will get.
I should think the plotters and schemers will depose him within 60 days.

And in my view, when they do it the only honourable course of action will be for his successor to immediately call a General Election.
Surely the British People deserve better than a re-run of the 2022-2024 Conservative Government fiasco.
For pity's sake...
We cannot have another chain of imposed, mandate-less Prime Ministers while the Governing Party rips itself to pieces over the next three years.
Not again.
 
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I almost can't believe what I am hearing. Labour has just taken the largest pasting in its history in the so called Red Wall seats. They were the seats that voted for Brexit by huge majorities. 3 days later Starmer stands up and says he is going to pursue closer ties with the EU. Now my own personal opinion is that this may indeed be a good idea, after all just because we left the EU doesn't mean we can't have a trading agreement with it.

However, Starmer clearly has no political common sense. If he considers this to be taking the fight to Reform it is one he is destined to lose.
 
I almost can't believe what I am hearing. Labour has just taken the largest pasting in its history in the so called Red Wall seats. They were the seats that voted for Brexit by huge majorities. 3 days later Starmer stands up and says he is going to pursue closer ties with the EU. Now my own personal opinion is that this may indeed be a good idea, after all just because we left the EU doesn't mean we can't have a trading agreement with it.

However, Starmer clearly has no political common sense. If he considers this to be taking the fight to Reform it is one he is destined to lose.
He's given up on the Brexiteers and is after the young people who have gone over to the Greens. Remoaners are now in the majority, and anyone who still believes Brexit was a good idea has gone over to Reform for good, so I can see the sense in his approach. Zach Polanski will, I predict, lose popularity, which is a shame, because the Greens have had good leaders up until now.
 
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At some point labour will need to court both the Lib Dem’s and the Green Party.
I say bring that on and reverse the self harm that was the Brexit decision