Well firstly, thank you for setting the record straight - in particular I am delighted that you clarified that Dave played no part in you posting less often (this was what I was arguing with these Binners). Thank you also for clarifying that it was not entirely me that cause you to leave, temporarily or otherwise - this is good to know.
I find it extremely disappointing that you still persist with painting yourself as the victim in this whole episode. Given that you were extremely abusive, were told so by posters and I had a number of PM's confirming that they thought you treated me disgracefully, I am astonished that you still can't comprehend your own part. I also offered you numerous olive branches, but your pride and hysteria obviously oblige you to conveniently forget this. It is an outright lie that I never messaged you personally - I did. Perhaps you didn't receive it because I was on your ignore list? Or perhaps it doesn't paint the pretty picture of you being the victim? I neither demand nor expect an apology - you have proven yourself far too oblivious to your own errors.
The delicious irony of your "holier-than-thou" gibe is that it is deliberately designed to put me between a rock and a hard place - I apologise graciously as I can and you assume I am therefore patronising, or I don't apologise at all and you cry about it! All this while taking no responsibility for your own immaturity in the sorry episode. Your behaviour was particularly appalling after the event with continuous posts referring to me - this was where the binners were so unhelpful with keeping on bringing it up, but I accept that clearly you wanted to any way so it wasn't their fault.
All that aside, I do not absolve myself of responsibility and I was, and remain, extremely sorry for any offence caused (to you and any others). I am not sure what else you want me to apologise for? I apologised for swearing because you complained about it.
If you don't want to accept my apology, that is fine, but there is no need to outright lie on here, saying I have never apologised nor personally messaged you. I have done my best and you have thrown it back in my face, so there really isn't anything else I can do.
As for you binners, fair enough - it appears I owe you an apology re the Munky episode
Jesus Christ Rob - you are a bloody lawyer aren't you!!
Dear me, you come back with yet another stream of lies (which I will highlight in a bit), distorted versions of the truth to suit your own little agenda (again), malicious character defamation of myself and a clear intention to ignore the facts just to make yourself sound like the wronged one. As one of the binners alluded to last night - you really are a piece of work aren't you! Actually **** it Rob, I wouldn't bother with law any more, I can definitely see a career in politics for you, I'm sure you would fit the bill perfectly!
I didn't want to get into all this again, but I feel that I have to defend my own character here and to highlight just a few of these lies you insist on throwing out there, just so people can se the actual facts and make their own minds up.
1. I never received anything like a PM from you, this is absolutely 100% a lie and I can't believe you have the gall to suggest it. Perhaps in your desperation you have managed to convince yourself about what happened, but let me assure everyone that you did not send me a personal apology or PM, and I'd go as far as to suggest that you never even tried or else you would be well aware of the reason it mysteriously didn't arrive in my inbox. Had the ignore button been the reason I didn't get it then I'm sure the website would have informed you thus, you seem a bit sketchy about the details however. Interesting....
2. At no point did I ever make "continuous posts referring to [you]" after that one got thread out of hand, this is another absolute lie. What I did do was make a light-hearted comment to Thai about how "certain people" might not be happy about his one line response to something he disagreed with (which was how the whole thing between you and I started in the first place), I didn't mention names at all and was happy to leave it at that, but you then read between the lines, went bleating to Dave and blew the whole thing out of proportion and started having a go at me and trying to make me out to be some bad guy - yet again!!
3. No posters directly told me that I was being abusive so this is another lie. The exception to this being Dave who in his role as moderator has more interest than anyone in calming things down so is always likely to respond when people start potentially going over the top. I've already said that I thought Dave called it wrong on that one, but I don't recall anybody else at any point telling me that I was being abusive at all. I do however remember at least a couple telling you to calm it down and chill out though, funny that that doesn't appear to remain in your clearly porous (or is it maybe devious and manipulative) memory don't you think? No surprise though as it's consistent with your behaviour towards me throughout. You appear convinced that several posters PM'd you to complain about me, now I obviously don't have any evidence to the contrary as it virtually impossible to prove a negative, however I would go as far as to stick my neck on the line and suggest that this didn't happen at all, and if anyone did complain to you about me then I put it to you that those particular private conversations were instigated by yourself.
4. I've not once accused you of being patronising in anything I've written on here, I've suggested that you're not a particularly nice individual and have lain other accusations at your door, but being patronising isn't one of them. And I'm not sure how you know what my reaction would have been to your "gracious apology" because forgive me, but I'm afraid I never saw anything like "gracious" coming from you, nothing at all.
5. I never complained about your "swearing", and have never complained about anyone's swearing ever - yet another lie! Yes, I took umbrage to being called, amongst other things, a "**** fan", "thick as pigshit", "an obnoxious little man" and being told to "**** off" not once, but twice. If you want to simply call all that "swearing" then I would expect nothing different from you, but in my book that is out and out disgusting abuse, it was completely unnecessary and for me is a perfect representation of your unhinged character. The evidence is still all there by the way, I know the truth about what happened as do you, but sadly only one of us chooses to stick to the facts rather than make stuff up to taint another well respected poster which ultimately drove me away.
6. Last one - fantastic politician's trick there in your opening gambit by the way, plucking out the parts that suit you and fit your agenda whilst completely ignoring the bulk of what I'd said, well done
. What you were actually arguing with the binners about last night was
their involvement in my leaving, I have clearly stated that they were nothing to do with it despite your apparent confidence in your accusations yesterday, and you then go on to show your delight in being proved right that it wasn't anything to do with Dave - what?? Moving the old goalposts yet again Rob, maybe you should be a groundsman as a sideline to your career in politics
. And I'm not sure why your are so relieved that it wasn't solely because of you that I left, that's a bit of an odd reaction to me saying that you were the main catalyst to my decision which was the point that I made. Just to make myself a bit clearer, yes there are other reasons that I decided not to post on here anymore and to spend my time more constructively elsewhere, but let me absolutely assure you that if our little flare-up hadn't happened and if I hadn't been on the receiving end of such a totally condescending and completely uncalled for tirade of abuse from you then I am almost certain I wouldn't have left at that point. Like I said I tried ignoring you but that just made it ugly, so I decided I just wasn't prepared to stick around and let someone like you infiltrate my headspace any more than you actually had, because in my opinion you are clearly a colossal bell end of the very highest order, and my life is far too short to let someone like you get me so wound up.
That might appear ironic after me coming up with War and Peace as a retort, however I'll be leaving you alone now to mis-interpret and twist my words once again to make me out to be the bad guy. If people want to believe the **** you peddle (not about your contributions about NCFC because you do often make valid points about the football) about me then it's a shame. However I like to think I've been around on these forums for long enough for the vast majority of people to realise what I'm about and what kind of person I am, and I'm pretty sure at least a few of them will have your card marked as well pal.
One final point on this - I have had my fair share of disagreements with posters over the years, some good old heated ding-dongs that are almost always resolved with an agreement to disagree or a good old chummy (virtual) slap on the back. However never before have I felt so compelled to walk away from the forum and stop posting as much as I did after you royally pissed me off, so if you want to take some pride out of that then please be my guest, congratulations.
Apologies to everyone else for making them read this all again, but Iâm I canât just sit here and let Rob (or whoever he thinks he is) slander my name just to satisfy his own little warped self-importance
, makes me realise that my earlier personal assessment of you remains at least as valid as it ever was.
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