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ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

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This comment by JJenas just sums it up for me as to what is wrong with the modern game (my emphasis).

Jermaine Jenas

Former Tottenham midfielder on BBC One

It's another incident that I've seen given in the past - but for me Alvaro Morata goes down very easily there. It's a tough one though, because there is contact, so he's within his rights to go down. I don't envy the referee.
 
ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter said:
This comment by JJenas just sums it up for me as to what is wrong with the modern game (my emphasis).

Jermaine Jenas

Former Tottenham midfielder on BBC One

It's another incident that I've seen given in the past - but for me Alvaro Morata goes down very easily there. It's a tough one though, because there is contact, so he's within his rights to go down. I don't envy the referee.
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Totally agree with you on this. Had a rant a few years back on exactly the same point and even wrote to thee PL or FA can’t remember which now and got a non response, response.

Idiots like Jenas should spend a little time reading the rules before commenting on subjects they don’t but should know.
 
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The key for me is the "he's within his rights " comment. What he's saying is that consciously the player feels contact and then decides to swan-dive to the ground deliberately. To me that's cheating and he should attempt to stay upright to the best of his ability and if ultimately he can't do that and ends on the ground then the ref has a call to make.
 
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A dive is a dive is a dive. Contact or not. If I feel contact on the bus do I dive down and get granny anny kicked off for fouling me?

This there was contact ****e gets right on my tit end. A foul is where someone has impeded play. If the player gets contact but can continue as if he had not had any contact then he has not been impeded. It really is not difficult.

It’s getting out of hand now.
 
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Geordieginola said:
A dive is a dive is a dive. Contact or not. If I feel contact on the bus do I dive down and get granny anny kicked off for fouling me?

This there was contact ****e gets right on my tit end. A foul is where someone has impeded play. If the player gets contact but can continue as if he had not had any contact then he has not been impeded. It really is not difficult.

It’s getting out of hand now.
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You’d be hard pressed to find a more worthless sack of crap organisation than the FA.
 
Dorty said:
I mean, which arse-licker at the BBC gave jenas a job anyway? He's crap.
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I think we know any old **** can get a job as a pundit, hence why we see the likes of Joey Barton, Michael Owen, Graeme Souness and Steve McClaren regularly giving their priceless insights at half time.
 
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They're hardly bastions of world football like, they know nowt more than the average fan in my opinion. That's what's ****ing wrong with the game, giving dickheads like this a licence to preach total and utter bollocks to national audiences. All they are doing is making themselves look bigger dickheads whilst getting paid for the privilege. Although as a licence payer it irks me that my hard earned geld is being spunked on these ****ing morons. The BBC should be ran by Jim Henson given the amount of muppets that it churns out onto our tellyboxes.....****ing muppet central it is !
 
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Mick O'Toon said:
^^^^Has a problem with ex-players/managers of Newcastle <laugh>
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I have a problem with Barton and Owen, cos they're total ****s. I don't have such a problem with McClaren and Souness, they were just **** managers who got the boot.

It's really the fact they make utterly atrocious pundits - i.e. Joey Barton spending all of an Everton game slating David Unsworth, Owen being a dreary little prick that always sits on the fence, and Souness being an interminable half time bore. The likes of Danny Murphy, Neville etc offer interestings points and insights, even Shearer's managed to up his game in recent times and be a decent pundit, those 4 however are a waste of airwaves.
 
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Charlie Dogscock said:
I have a problem with Barton and Owen, cos they're total ****s. I don't have such a problem with McClaren and Souness, they were just **** managers who got the boot.

It's really the fact they make utterly atrocious pundits - i.e. Joey Barton spending all of an Everton game slating David Unsworth, Owen being a dreary little prick that always sits on the fence, and Souness being an interminable half time bore. The likes of Danny Murphy, Neville etc offer interestings points and insights, even Shearer's managed to up his game in recent times and be a decent pundit, those 4 however are a waste of airwaves.
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Unless he's commenting on a Liverpool game of course !
 
I actually like Souness, as a fellah, and would happily share an evening with him swapping pints. It was simply the case that he wasn't up to management when outside of the Liverpool bubble, as was Dalgleish.

The latter I have no time for at all and wouldn't even give him a second hand Irn-Bru that had been cleansed by my kidneys.
 
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It was clearly a dive because being tugged back doesn't make you fall forward horizontally <doh>

What I would say is that anywhere else on the pitch, it's probably a foul though.

Players don't help themselves, but also refs don't help themelves by not giving fouls for people when they don't go down. How many times have we seen a player fouled, stay on their feet and not get the foul? Means they have to force themselves to go down which will always look unnatural.
 
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Charlie Dogscock said:
I have a problem with Barton and Owen, cos they're total ****s. I don't have such a problem with McClaren and Souness, they were just **** managers who got the boot.

It's really the fact they make utterly atrocious pundits - i.e. Joey Barton spending all of an Everton game slating David Unsworth, Owen being a dreary little prick that always sits on the fence, and Souness being an interminable half time bore. The likes of Danny Murphy, Neville etc offer interestings points and insights, even Shearer's managed to up his game in recent times and be a decent pundit, those 4 however are a waste of airwaves.
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Souness came over here as a pundit(Irish telly) and couldn't believe how frank everyone was,he wouldn't get away with it in England(wouldn't be employed) and he grows into but BBC and Sky don't like any bad vibes cos both selling a product,just saying.
 
Don’t have a problem with biased or crap pundits - I am generally watching the football anyway. Its no worse than having some twat sat next to you who moans all game about a particular player.
What I dont like are these new found attempts by pundits to try and get players disciplined for actions ref missed, by replaying Shelvey for example nutting someone over and over. Gets to the point where FA have to take retrospective action because of the publicity. Too easy for them to pick on players they don’t like.
On the subject of diving if player could stay on his feet then its a dive. Two actions could eliminate diving completely:
- ref playing advantage rule properly and awarding a penalty if player is impeded, carries on but then fluffs his subsequent shot
- big bans for players going down too easily
 
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