My God - Bristol City posters are bringing out all the big guns to the thread now. If you weren't such a laugh you'd be pathetic.
Ah, So nobody is mentioning our inept centre Midfield which are causing the **** defence by getting walked through easily every week
I am heavily involved in pre academy age large coaching. Cardiff are hardly radical. I have an acquaintence with a west country son at the club, others at Rovers. Sorry, but the business model over that side embraces too much that is grubby in football, no club is a utopia, and it was hardly built on any long term business plan e.g placing the club on an even keel. The price of success does not have to be A/running a club into the ground B/ then sell the club off to Mr X from planet Z and creating a weird sporting brand. You may rub your hands at it all, but Wurzel here simply cannot admire it, its just all so smelly, silly even. I think things can still be done with a bit more class here.
Fella no malice intended here at all, but a obvious part of what you view as progress looks like the bollocks that belongs at a NFL franchise.
"The price of success does not have to be A/running a club into the ground B/ then sell the club off to Mr X from planet Z and creating a weird sporting brand." Hmmm.......You come across as just a little bitter. Perhaps you just can't stand it when another club turns the corner and leaves yours floundering behind as it obviously is. Citing past history as a basis for a current opinion demostrates a total lack of grasp of the present. If you believe that your way is the preferred way forward and it is possible to achieve it in this obscene cash orientated game that football has become, then the very best of luck to you. I doubt that many of your fellow Bristol City supporters have the same altruistic attitude that you have ably demonstrated today. The whiff of self righteousness has become a stench - and I thought it was coming from Port Talbot. Meanwhile, I'll only say this. I posted the thread for all the right reasons and to be fair, got some decent responses as well as a few I fully expected to get. I will continue to watch with interest how you cope with what is an obvious crisis to many supporters who would like to see their club progress and not slip backwards basking in the knowledge that "they did it the right way". Any more contributions on the tread and I will be around to address them - thanks guys.
Mentioned West Brom Paths crossed over decades asc well as corners, roundabouts now gone and left and disappeared over the horizon. Bitter? No, well done West Brom. That club kept its character, eccentricities, it's colours. There are many means of running club's, some models are unattainable at Bristol City e.g Germany rule 51%, or unrealistic. However there are business models that are compatible with BCFC. I do not feel that putting Bristol City into the position Cardiff were pre re-brand - takeover would have been in the best interest of BCFC, or any club. The consequence of that non long term strategy is that one or more falls over a cliff, and it could have been Bristol City. Due to FFP the above risky and foolish journey has been shut. Good thing that. 1982, once bitten twice shy.
Needs a bit of work, change of badge and the red kit might be alright. Yess we all want to be a Welsh club, no we don't actually. What about the important stuff like the day on the piss and a laugh with your mates? Bristol City by a mile Dai.
Clifton - I can understand your point of view regarding your last sentence. 1982 was not a good year and I accept you don't want it repeated. However, that was 30 years ago and you need to move forward not look backwards. tiger_emyrs_wolf - Decent point. Not all of us agreed with the move from Ninian, but most saw the necessity. You are absolutely right about the increased revenue streams that it provides. You can't beat the numbers game. Revenue from increased attendances, corporate events and catering contracts have swollen the coffers. They are fundamental to achieving progress for any club whether we like it or not. Having now turfed out the Cardiff Blues from their lease to play at the CCS and ruin the pitch, we have a playing surface maintained by a state of the art winter grow light system that is as good as any in the league. You don't get all that for diddly squat. The investment made by our new owners has been phenominal despite the derision from some quarters.
Must be difficult for Old Sparkplug to feel second best to that little City down west of the M4. They didn't have to sell the colour of their shirts to get to the Prem. The only Welsh club in the prem and not even the capital of the country.
Cheap shot Wizey, but you are probably correct. They went bust though (twice) and were a phoenix club that not only got off the ground, but went all the way in 10 years. The only criticism you can level at them is that they went bust and ripped off a lot of local creditors to achieve it. The point is that we had little choice after the debt laden Hamman and Ridsdale eras. We are doing it our way (the only way we could with such a monkey on our back), and have not used administration to achieve it. We have repaid many of our debts through equity purchase by the new owners - not loans. A huge difference. Hamman to go now and the inside track is he will be gone before the start of next season, whatever division we play in.
No cheap shot Sparky just expressing an opinion,since you've become a franchise,given up your blue heritage,you may have regained the bottle you have lost in recent years and it's good to see but I still prefer the Swansea model of UK based ownership who are much closer to their local fanbase. I openly admit we,Bristol City are down on the ground and look relegation bound but miracles do happen,I shall continue to give support to our club 100% regardless..
You asked the questions, didn't get the giddy answers you wanted and then started on with all the "parthetic n self righteous" like a baboon with its arse in the air. Its ok, we accept your regional handicap called Wales.
That's the spirit Wizey - never give up on supporting your own club. That's exactly what I'm doing. Change of colour? So what? We'd play in pink if it meant we still had a team to support. (We'd probably get a few more followers if we did... ) Franchise? Don't get that - just another immotive jibe to sling across the Bridge with no foundation at all. Last of all "regained the bottle you have lost in recent years" - I'll let you know about that in May.......
Lets be to the point here,Swansea and Cardiff have left us in their trails by a country mile. both are in a different league to us poor sods,What baffles me is SL came out with the war cry against Peterborough,but we are going down with a wimper.
Don't think you can compare the two. Steve Lansdown has his own money v Risdale and more than Hamman. So the real Red City won't get in such a mess that they go down the strange franchise route. Mr Lansdown has said he will not put the club at risk and I think fans overwhelmingly believe him. Answer is dunno. Clubs are two different planets. Sets ups with ownership will probably be very different when Ashton Vale is built. Edit - Pricing for fans might be worth looking at.
Things we need A new Manager. A new stadium A new defence and 2 new CM now **** off you sheep shagger (not you rod )
Hi Sparkey, We're in a terrible mess led by a bunch of ditherers. They WILL sack Mcinnes but it will be much to late to save us from L1. You've put up with a shed load of stick from your Welsh cousins (like you've given them in the past) and a few of 'ours' but I say bloody good luck to CCFC and wish you the very best. Enjoy the Premiership.
