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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Bush Rhino, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    I think there is probably a bit more to our ongoing FFP issue than we know. I certainly wouldn't assume we can throw money around.
     
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  2. YorkshireHoopster

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    Agreed. We simply don't know what's happening with that. If it was a formality that we would walk away with a slap on the wrist, we would have known a bit more by now. Not sure why anybody thinks chucking money at it is the solution. If the past 4 seasons have taught us anything it's that our owners have not got a clue how to select a manager. If they had the wisdom of Watford's owners or Southampton's we might get someone decent with a good idea how to get the best out of us.

    Let's face it - none of us fans know who it should be. The only names ever suggested are Warnock and anybody who has managed in the Prem or Championship who happens to be available. Nobody ever suggested any of the six or seven managers who have been appointed at Vicarage Road or St Mary's.
     
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  3. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    FFP is not resolved but we have some of the most creative accountants and lawyers around. Its wise to be prudent but the money is there. Washington was how much?? I can't remember or be bothered to check my facts but it was a few million for a striker with a patchy record.

    I think maybe Micky Rourke or Dennis Hopper would be perfect, we need someone who can kick ass. My dream manager would obviously be Miss Piggy, but she's tied up with that revenge sex tape business with an as yet unnamed green amphibian. Shame.
     
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  4. Hertfordshire Qpr

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    There's investing money wisely and then there's just chucking it around, this squad needs investment in it, no doubt about that.

    I'm not suggesting we return to our old ways, I'm simply stating we need some investment in the playing squad but I want it to be sent wisely, not on no two bob mercenaries...
     
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  6. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    We'd all like that. But at some point we have to back that unknown rather than that famous name who will spend it on his favourite 'two bob mercenaries'
     
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  7. sb_73

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    To do that we have to sell. That is the business model. Les spelled it out. If we did invest I doubt the owners, who must still be subsidising the day to day running of the club, would be so keen on writing it all off next time. So, if you want the club to be loaded with debt on a gamble for promotion (and surely not this season, with this manager) that we have tried and lost at before, any 'investment' (I struggle to see football players as investments. Training grounds and stadiums are investments) this is the way to go.

    Les has cleverly insured himself against success. He said that it takes 18 months to bed new players in, especially foreign players. So each time we get a new one the deadline for being any good is extended by a year and a half. If we buy someone every window we could be crap in perpetuity by this logic......
     
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  8. Frome-Ranger

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    I don't think the 'right' manager for QPR exists. We try youngish and/or inexperienced managers like Ramsay and JFH and it doesn't work. We try hugely experienced managers like Redknapp and Hughes and it doesn't work. I don't know what the fans want anymore, of course we want a massive improvement in the quality of the football but it seems if it doesn't happen immediately the groans and boos come. I know it's not been inspiring stuff but I don't think LR is an easy environment in which to succeed anymore when you have players like Gladwin who get booed regardless of what they do, just coming off the bench Friday was enough for some to boo him. Les also takes a lot of stick on here but frankly we don't know half of what he does so people are making up an opinion based on the fact our football is **** at the moment. I dont really blame the board for the managerial appointments no one could have predicted how they would all pan out. However I think we all know it is only a matter of time for Jimmy now, I don't know if he's lost the dressing room (I suspect not ) but he has lost the fans and that only has one outcome. Trouble is who on earth do they turn to? and how long before they do. More importantly can a manager even succeed at QPR?
     
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  9. rangercol

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    A good post. But of course a manager can succeed at QPR, we just keep on choosing the wrong man.
     
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  10. Hertfordshire Qpr

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    Had to say it but Les was on a personal crusade with these appointments.

    Ramsay - appointed when clearly out of he's depth, relegates us and rewarded with 3 year contract

    Chris Powell - Interviewed for position, why ? Not exactly a distinguished manager.

    JFH - No championship experience, hired on basis of getting us promoted, fails, given another season.
     
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  11. qpherts

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    The players are there but not the manager! Bottom 3 in a few wks time still least we'll have stability!!!
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    Harry should have been the right man but was sadly the wrong man. The only reason he did so well at Spurs was because he had a good team. I could have picked a winning team from the players he had. He stitched us up with that dodgy knee crap and has proven time and time again that he is as dodgy as his knee.

    Ramsey was a good guy but way out of his depth. He had a good pedigree but needed more years to learn his trade. His experience at QPR was a bad one IMO. Some big name players with big ego's didn't help him at all.

    JFH Is another one who is out of depth. I have said all along that he would fail because he doesn't have the experience for a Championship manager. He inherited the Burton team from Rowlett and it was destined to do well. His buys have been questionable. Washington a number 9? His tactics and formations are Sunday League at best and he will not adapt. He is learning his trade with us and that's why he experiments so much. No excuses now as this is his team. We need to get rid asap before we get into a relegation fight that we don't have the players to win.

    Players I keep reading that we have the players, but do we? Take Caulker and Chump, both should be mountains in this division but switch off as quick as a light and cost us time and time again. Our forwards are not the best. We have one who we paid £3M for who cannot score.
    Our midfield changes too much to get any rhythm. Only bright things are the two Polish lads who always seem to put a shift in.

    Outcome We have been so mismanaged that it is coming back to haunt us. Not sure about FFP and how it has affected the club. However, QPR has spent the 5th highest amount on players this season as well has having some so-called good players already and if you compare that with how we are doing it is atrocious. Lesser teams are doing better on a fraction of the budget, why? because we have an idiot who doesn't know how to win games in the Championship. I keep mentioning NW because he knows how to win, how to get players motivated. Never would we have capitulated to Newcastle with NW in charge or be non-committal to an average Brentford side. Like someone said we made them look good. TF is partly to blame for this because once again he gets led down the garden path. Never should we have both Les and Hoos together. What's the point of a club our size paying two men for a one man job? Seriously think that Les should go before he becomes a hated figure at the club. He recommended both Ramsey and JFH and where are we now?
     
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  13. Ninj

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    If we are considering replacing JFH then I would like to suggest Nigel Pearson. He helped lay the foundations at Leicester, however then had a sticky time at Derby. Maybe trying to get his point of view across in a team that didn't ant to play didn't help, maybe also having a chairman that was overlooking his every move.
    At least you know what you would get. Someone who wears his heart on his sleeve.
    My only concern about changing manager again so soon, is that he will want to bring in his own players and we will end up being stuck on the conveyor belt, going round and round not ever getting anywhere
     
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  14. Frome-Ranger

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    I think we need a manager with a bit of charisma, it has to be someone who can inspire players and fans alike. I'm tired of a glum dour gaffer on the sidelines (crikey I sound like I want Sherwood). I think we have some reasonable talent in the team but overall I don't see that even with a better manager our expectations should be too lofty with this squad.
     
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  15. qpherts

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    A manager with a clue wd be a start
     
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  16. YorkshireHoopster

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    Perhaps he applied for the job?
     
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  18. ELLERS

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  19. Hertfordshire Qpr

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    Luigi Di Cannio for me.
     
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  20. sb_73

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    Bielsa most fun on that list.
     
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