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What's Harry ever done for us?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by stanleyparkerbowles, May 14, 2014.

  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Harry's tactic was penalties ONCE WE WERE DOWN TO 10 MEN!! Before that he played a very attacking 4-4-2. FFS!!
    I've not been Harry's biggest fan, but we just won a sensational victory at Wembley and those of us that were there will never forget it. The 10 that were left on the pitch gave everything to win that game. Have a word with yourself. You're so anti QPR it's embarrassing.
     
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  2. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate, but it simply wasn't luck. It was grim determination to not give in!! Green and the back 4 were immense, especially Dunne. The entire team worked and worked and worked. Zamora provided a touch of class to finish when the Derby players couldn't. That's not luck.
     
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  3. Grifter

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    I can't argue with playing the starting 11 that beat Wigan, and produced arguably the season's best performance.

    Part of me wanted to see Ravel for Kranjkar, but at the time of his injury Derby were starting to get on top a bit, and pinning us back. Bringing on our paciest benched player made sense from a counter attacking perspective, so I can't argue with that either.

    Again part of me wanted to see Ravel for Doyle, but at that stage (57th min) we were well under the cosh, so bringing on Bobby as an outlet was sensible. Particularly given his recent super sub appearances, including the 2 assists V Wigan. The winning goal justifies this sub too.

    Henry for O'neil made perfect sense as well. Someone to work hard defensively in front of the back 4 was a must Vs that Derby attack. Without him, I don't we'd have managed to keep them at bay.

    All spot on imo!
     
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  4. danishqp

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    Did you know that Redknapp wanted to take Hoilett off and it was Hill who overuled him, telling him to keep him on as an outlet and that Traore could cover the left side?
     
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  5. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    Agree with you Col. Good resolute defending and goalkeeping is not luck. Derby can't say they were unlucky not to score.
     
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  6. KPDHoopster

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    Danish, yes we all know that, and it is a credit Harry, for recognising the idea was best, it is a credit to Clint for suggesting.

    It is a club that works together , and is prepared to say, yes your right, I was wrong, great idea !!

    We are together, we are QPR !!!

    and it a long time, since I felt so positive about our club.

    But yet somehow, some fans, want to turn that into a negative - Unbelieveable
     
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  7. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Not doubting you, Danish, but as a matter of interest what's the evidence for that?
     
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  8. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Yep. And?
     
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  9. KPDHoopster

    KPDHoopster Well-Known Member

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    GoldHawk, replays show Clint remonstrating with Harry, pointing his finger at himself.

    Clint basically took himself off for the team.

    Will make a great coach !!
     
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  10. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    I had no idea that in football the club captain had the power to overrule the manager. Perhaps instead Hill made the suggestion and Redknapp, who at first thought he needed his skipper on the field to martial the other nine, considered and agreed with his captain? If rather like the idea that the two have that sort of relationship.
     
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    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I agree. It was vital to leave Hoilett on to give us some pace to break out with. Yet again, it was Hoilett who was by far our biggest threat.
     
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  12. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    I am anti QPR you have a word col
    I live QPR how dare you
    The 10 on the pitch did brilliantly but Derby had 63% get real
    Derby were a force but they were not Wigan that was a another game
    Kranky wasn't fit we all knew that and cost us a sub in a game this important
    Hoilett would of been subbed if it wasn't for Hill
    If you somehow think that Derby didn't deserve to win that match as most of this country thinks then you are the one wrong
    You slagged off Dunne and BZ all season IMO those two players did us proud

    Bloody Furious ... Anti QPR
     
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  13. Grifter

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    I don't see wanting to sub hoillet as being a managerial catastrophe? He succeeded with pretty much nothing up until the goal. Replacing an ineffectual attacking winger when you're down to 10 men is what 99% of managers would do. Arry would've thought we had enough outlets with Bobby/Austin/Traore on the pitch.
    Obviously in hindsight it worked out well, because Hoillet's one piece of success from their mistake led to the goal.
    But who knows, had the original sub gone forward, and traore remained on the wing rather than LB- maybe it'd have been him delivering the winning cross instead? We'll never know
     
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  14. westlondonlalala

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    A good day out - but would rather we started next year with Mclaren in charge of us...
     
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  15. GoldhawkRoad

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    Thanks, KPD!
     
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  16. Vale_Hoops

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    Agree here..It has always amazed when when the front two play well everyone says you have played really well but when the defense plays well you are lucky.... Even Steve Claridge said similar. Don't get me wrong we weren't good by a long way but got the job done and dug deep when not playing well, one man down.
     
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  17. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    You have been very anti QPR for weeks and weeks.
    Yes, I've openly admitted criticising Zamora and Dunne. That's because they were playing very badly. When they played better, I pointed it out. I said Zamora was like a new player after he came back from his op. I also said that Dunne was superb for the first half of the season.
    Kranjcar may have said he WAS fit. Who's fault is that?
    Of course Derby had 63% possession...........we had TEN MEN!
    Derby then failed to make that advantage count. The next best chance in the entire game fell to us........Austin's.
    Derby dived and Whined.
    They played well, but created very little by way of good chances. We were organised and should have taken the lead before O'neill went.
    Our 10 men were all heroes and we deserved the victory for such a brave backs-to-the-wall performance.
     
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  18. Uber_Hoop

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    Hoilett did well for the goal, but for much of the season he's performed in a similar way that many criticised Mackie for, i.e. charging off upfield into cul-de-sacs. I often wonder whether Mackie would've contributed more.

    Personally I was thinking Redknapp was going to sub a sub and take Traore off, but I'm as thick as pigshit.
     
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  19. sb_73

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    I've posted elsewhere that what's taken us through the last few weeks has been a sudden emergence of team spirit and stubborness. Perhaps some of that is down to Redknapp, but the visible side of it comes from Hill, Barton and Dunne, plus Austin's continual running. In the last two games Clint Hill has made the critical and positive decisions about substitutions. To win a game with 10 men, 32% possession (and not much more when we had 11 men for 60 minutes) and 1 shot on target definitely takes grim determination but also in my book a bit of luck, and thats nothing to be ashamed of.

    Looked like a great day yesterday Col.

    DT can fight his own corner, but to accuse him of being 'anti QPR' is daft.
     
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  20. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    You can't win anything without a certain amount of luck. But that wasn't a lucky win imo.
     
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