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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    imo, and I still believe this, Rodgers is only there because of the lack of an available replacement. Otherwise he and his staff would be gone, but they can at least get a headstart and ditch the staff, and keep Brod until someone they desire becomes available. Had Klopp or Ancelotti professed a desire to take the job I think it's fair to say Brod would already be gone.
     
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    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    If Rodgers had appointed these staff, then it is unbelievable that Rodgers could stand aside and let these people be sacked. Can you imagine Ferguson or Mourinho appointing some key coaches and then these people are sacked without their authorisation? Inconceivable.
     
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    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Exactly.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it would never occur as they wee successes and rodgers is a failure.
     
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    Yeah that's another matter, one I won't pretend to know the ins and out of. I take it everyone believes he should have quit because his staff were sacked. I dunno. It depends on the details no one here is aware of. It seems a judgement has been made in court of public opinion

    How do we know Brod didn't want his staff gone anyways, unlikely I know but we are playing with probabilities here and they don't make for good absolute arguments.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    ok that is fair.

    we are taking the meeting held as one where it was all you will do x, y and z.... maybe rodgers was always going to agree with this and maybe he suggested it.. no idea

    the fact that there's no sniff of rodgers for the mast 3/4 weeks suggests he is on the down low.
     
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    Can you blame him <laugh> He talked a lot of fluff between last season and this, and backed none of it up <laugh>
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    sure but after being told his job is safe you'd think he'd be on talksport getting his weekly ball licking.

    I think he wants to avoid the question of why he stabbed his mucker in the back personally. its a no win question.
     
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    Did he, if FSG said we want x and y gone, what can Rodgers do but quit really. He's gonna be waiting a long time to get another job like this, so I can understand what would appear to be weakness on his part for not quitting.

    Thing is, with the results going the way they have and the signings, Brod is in no position to demand anything from the club and owners, he was given enough rope and did hang himself, but somehow the trapdoor failed to open<laugh>
     
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    Indeed.

    The truth is either that;

    a) He threw Pascoe and Marsh under the bus in order to save his own hide

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    b ) He was told that he needed to bring in fresh faces onto the coaching staff and both were going to have to go.

    So, he's either back stabbed his own mate, or he's stepped aside while he watched him get shot.

    Either way he comes out of it with no glory and little credibility
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    totally true

    he cannot say to the media oh.. i was told to as it will get fsg backs up and undermine himself so he has to talk ****e about freshness and new directions and such.

    Brent will be in full spin in july.
     
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    Isn't everyone always saying though - there's no room for sentiment in football - he's shown no sentiment by not walking away when his 2 assistants have been sacked [do we actually know this for sure btw?] and now it's 'he's weak' etc. etc. .... not saying you said that personally but others have.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    well honestly when you've a long deal on more money that you are ever likely to get offered as a boss again what would you do?

    stick in and hope to get fired in october? There could be some brinkmanship there too.
     
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    We live in a world where thinking something makes it so for many unfortunately. Something we're probably all guilty of at times.
     
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    If they've completely undermined him looking for a resigination to avoid the compo, then sacking his right hand man was probably only the start

    I'd expect them to ride roughshod over his transfer wishes and bring in players of their choosing and not his, proably those who offer the best market value......maybe players on Bosmans for example <whistle>
     
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    Very true. <ok>
     
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    lol seems rivals are prefectly capable of having #meltdowns even when I'm not here

    So much for me allegedly being a WUM and provoking it

    How is someone reaching the end of their contract being "stabbed in the back"?
     
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    I blame TV and the media, people on the internet these days are imbued with a pseudo honour and pseudo moral ethics. Whilst their digital self has these attributes, the mortal meatbag at the keyboard seldom does. <laugh>
     
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    Maybe BR knew deep down although his backroom staff do a good job, to take the club to a higher level he'd need more experienced coaches.

    He tacitly let the board do his firing for him. He may well have put up some resistance like "they're not to blame". But the board said "we've heard enough, they're fired".
     
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    This is absurd. It is like having a company in trouble. The owners sack the deputies appointed by the CEO and leave the CEO in place. Whats going to change?
     
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