smoking while driving is worst than using a phone? did i really just read that ****e! lost for fecking words. next you will be telling me its ok to put on your make up whilst driving, as at least if you need both hands you can drop your lippie
Mate if you smoke that's your free choice to do so, but the point being made was, in an emergency you can drop a phone safely but not a lit cigarette.
I know absolutely unbelievable. Even using a phone on the road legally i.e. hands free is fraught with danger. I can take a call on a journey and arrive at my destination without any recollection of how I got there, due to being engrossed in the conversation and driving on 'auto pilot' Smoking whilst driving is nowhere near as dangerous as using a phone ILLEGALLY.
Far be it from me to defend smoking, but surely these are two different scenarios? In a situation where you need both hands briefly, you can keep your *** in your mouth. The need to take it out, flick ash, etc is something you do when you're on autopilot. Nobody diligently clutches the wheel with both hands the whole time, so how is it any different from taking one hand off to change gear or scratch your goolies? I seriously doubt any veteran smoker requires much concentration to handle a ***, as much, if not more, of a driver's attention is taken by radio, satnav, children or nagging passengers. Ban 'em all? The only issue I have with smoking drivers is if I'm in there with them, because I can't stand the stuff.
I'm not for banning smoking while driving. I don't smoke and like you can't stand the stuff but I agreed with Gerrez that in an emergency a dropped phone is safer than a dropped cigarette - and that's about it really. I'm glad they banned phones in cars except if being used handsfree, so nobody should have a phone in their hand to be dropped in the first place! If you read back my comment about nobody's invented a handsfree cigarette yet, was meant as a joke. I was going to put a smiley to make it clear [remember that discussion we has a while back about people relying on smileys to get a message across?] but I didn't in the end because it's actually a serious issue.
I was once in a car with someone and when we saw another driver with a phone to his ear the person driving the car I was in launched a tirade of abuse at the other driver about how dangerous it was to use a phone whilst driving if it was not hands free. A couple of miles further on our "saintly, do no wrong " driver proceeded to take an orange out of the glove compartment and peel, and eat it, whilst driving, when I pointed out this was perhaps as bad as using a phone I was told "It's not illegal so it's OK". I am pretty sure you can be charged with not being in control of your vehicle whether it is using a phone or eating food.
i think you are right, trouble the police have is proving it. also similar problem with people not wearing seat belts, how do they prove that one.
You can be fined for not being in control of your vehicle for eating. There was a case a few years ago when someone was charged with the same thing for blowing his nose, despite the fact he was in a queue of traffic and the hand brake was on! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...blowing-nose-Michael-Mancini-faces-trial.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7834679.stm
"She was accused of not being in proper control of her vehicle and accepted a fine and three points rather than go to court and risk a £1,000 penalty." if that went to court it would be one sides word against the other, ie no evidence. then what is the court supposed to go on? how honorable the police are so must be in the right good one lol, the fact they get away with this is because most are like this women just accept it, if you challenge it usually its dropped as cps don't usually see the value in it, no evidence. it is wrong to do anything whilst driving in a car to be honest, and all things should be illegal if you are in control of the vehicle, but proving it is always the issue, and some are seen as more serious than others, they are all wrong in my opinion but happen every day sadly, i have seen all sorts from drinking,smoking,using phone to make a call, texting, makeup, reading newspaper etc. even skinning up. "Now Mr Mancini, a 39-year-old father-of-two, faces a potentially expensive legal battle to clear his name after vowing not to pay the fine." what was the update on this? sounds a joke to start with, esp as he had the handbrake on (i have seen that used as an excuse because they didn't as well)
After the Toxteth riots Rex Makin was defending someone in the mags court, the guy was bang to rights so Rex summed up with " Who is the court to believe, my client, or the uncorroborated evidence of 14 Merseyside Police officers" Needless to say his client was sent down.
It's a difficult one isn't it - not being in control of the vehicle - think of the amount of times you take a hand off the wheel, winding the window down, altering the radio/putting a cd in, adjusting heating or anything on the dash, scratching yourself, popping a chewie in, wiping condensation off windscreen [can you tell I've got an old car] - the list goes on and you couldn't legislate for any of it.
Seem to remember a few years ago a bloke was sent down as he admitted to reaching into the glove box for a throat sweet just before he went into the back of a car on the motorway and killed a girl.
I say Shroosbury, cos I am common and scouse. Posh people say Shrosebury. There again there is a small place in South Shropshire called Ratlinghope, the locals pronounce it Ratchit, god knows why!
We were having a discussion a while ago at home. I say Shroosbury but was told it was pronounced Shrosebury. I looked it up and found an interesting article in a Shrewsbury newspaper which said that locals have always pronounced it Shroosbury but new people [out of towners] moving in want to posh it up and pronounce it Shrosebury! So we're both right
