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What makes a good manager?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by bobmid, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. Azmi

    Azmi Well-Known Member

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    "So is Hughes a manager in every sense of the word? Not from what I can see, he's more of a businessman running a management company where he buys the skills in and oversees the product."

    Exactly, the perfect summary.
     
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    Nicely put.

    Soopermack suggests it's an 'ideal type' but I don't think it is. It's what everyone expects from their manager in football - but often don't get.
     
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  3. bobmid

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    With the players, facilities etc at our disposal i would lay a bet that any poster on here could have got at least one win from 10 games!! The vast majority of work at a football club has now been taken away from managers compared to 20/30 odd years ago. There is now a role for all sorts of people to enable a manager to manage.
     
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    And to me this is the crux Bob, everything is in place, even as DT once wrote it's a Formula 1 car waiting to tear off. But the frigging driver is drunk and all of his mates (ex pros, pundits, media boys) are unwilling to call him in. That Hughes has managed to pass himself as a top quality manager to my mind rivals Stanford and Madoff for Pontzi schemes!
     
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  5. bobmid

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    Hughes in my opinion over complicates with his style of management. Remember these players have been coached from a very young age and they stop technically improvimg through coaching in their late teens. What they get coached on now is the style of play and formation of play along with marking duties from set pieces etc. You can't predict what scenarios appear during 90 minutes of football therefore it is impossible to coach for such situations. This has to be left to player initiative and imagination. If you over complicate things and feed too much information then players decision making is taken out of their hands and more of a machine effect takes place over freedom of expression. Let the players do what they do best and not hinder that with constant game plan.
     
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    Exactly, 1st half was Hughes coaching and instructions, the 2nd half was the players enjoying the freedom to play.
     
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  7. bobmid

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    We need to simplify it and let the talent shine!!
     
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    As a general rule of thumb for me, i like managers that do not wear suits in the dugout...= proper football manager...
     
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    Or we have a bunch of stupid players. I for one think Anton needs an earpiece and someone telling him exactly what to do ( including 'now breathe') for every second of the game, with 'I wandered lonely as a cloud' Traore not far behind him.........
    Actually Bob I think you have something with this one. As soon as I saw them line up for kick off with both Mackie (dubbed 'the white SWP' by my son) and Hoilett on the right wing I thought something was up, and then they stayed there for 20 minutes. Plus, though Cisse has irritated me this season, no attempt was made to play to his strengths - he continually made runs and had to pull up as the midfield hung on to the ball. Whatever game plan they had was either wrong, too complicated or instantly forgotten as soon as they got on the pitch.
     
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    You'll go with Tony Pulis rather than Jose Mourinho then?
     
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  11. Soopermack

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    That would then make it an "ideal type" and as a complete package, very few but the best possess.....
     
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  12. Azmi

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    No, had enough of Welsh managers, suits or not.
     
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  13. seahoop

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    There is always exceptions to the rule...
     
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  14. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Just given my ticket to a colleague who is a stoke fan!! Its not worth the petrol for me thanks to Mr Hughes!!
     
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    Hughes won't lose any sleep though mate.
     
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    I don't expect he will. I can't believe at this point in the season i am already watching for other results. Its nothing short of ridiculous .
     
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