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What a wally. Bruce try poundstretcher next time

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by billofengland, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. QWOP

    QWOP Well-Known Member

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    This is overly negative.... It has been highlighted over on the light side that due to the money you have gained from Bent and Hendo, you are in a strong position. Indeed, you have a chairman and owner who want to spend. If anything, I see good things for you (which is good and bad for me)
     
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  2. Disco

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    Why's it good and bad for you?
     
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  3. QWOP

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    I like to see the both of us do well (good) but I don't want you doing too well and finishing above us again (bad) lol!
     
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  4. Disco

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    Makes sense. You're a gent considering you're a mag.

    Come back any time.
     
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  5. QWOP

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    Haha thank you very much. This and the NUFC board are the only ones worth visiting and discussing in anyway.
     
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    I am not looking forward to this summer! Zenden gone, Hendo gone, Wellbeck and Onhua gone, Mensah and muntari gone. Although we have held onto Elmo.....Thank F*** or that! Otherwise me season ticket may have been chucked! How can we be in this postition after 2 years of Brucies reign? No squad! Sold Benty and Hendo our two most valuable assets, with no guarantee top players will come to the north east as replacements- as normally they don't come further north than Manchester. We have a captain with serious anger management issues, no recgonised left back, only one centre forward, a ginger centre back with lead in his boots and a 10 million pound goal keeper with brittle bones. I am a natural pessimist, but I am in a dark place. If we sign a couple of quality players it may pick me up, but even our frees are taking ages to tie up!
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    Aye Colo, I second that mate.
     
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  8. QWOP

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    You are like the complete opposite of my lot!! Howay lad, get some delusion inside of you :)
     
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  9. Billy Death

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    Sparty, think thats a bit harsh on young Colback mate.
     
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  10. talcnturnip

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    Think he just chucked that in as a joke ish mate.
    He's not usually this upbeat <ok>
     
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  11. blackcatsteve

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    I thought he meant Turner tbh, Turner isnt really ginger though (not Scholes ginger anyway), and Colback isnt a CD so....
     
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  13. MrRAWhite

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    I'm sure you must be the serial whinger who sits just behind me at the match: Quinn's worked his bollocks off to try and get us to kick on,and what has he got back in return? Well despite signing star players such as Bent and Gyan, we have still been getting relatively poor crowds. That is the main bloody reason why we have to sell in order to buy! And before some clever ****e comes on and talks about gate receipts being only a small percentage of the total money; I'm also talking about the poor crowds and empty seats behind the goal as being detrimental in attracting sponsors.
     
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  14. monty987

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    Well we should get Benitez in first, then start signing quality like Berbatov and Pavlechenko, Bale etc.
     
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  15. QWOP

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    Never thought of that but it is an extremely valid point. Selling Hendo and increasing the squad is actually a good idea though. More strength and depth although I think you are capable of attracting better players than those banded around at the moment. You got an excellent price for him. You should do what we are doing. Scout the foreign leagues and tap up talent. You could get 6 Tiote's for 20 million..... Get on it!!
     
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  16. davrosFTM

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    WTF??...I've seen some negativity in my time, but a lot of our so called fans really want to start getting real.
     
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  17. Dorset

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    You want some realism? ok, here it is...........

    Many of us, including me, have spoken about how well Sunderland AFC is run as a club and business, but looking at the events of last season and preparations for the start of next season, can we really say it is?

    The Academy of Light is held in high regard by many clubs in the English football leagues. The youth team is very well run, due to the excellent management skills of Kevin Ball; with the reserve team run equally well by Keith Bertschin, who made sure that when called upon, the reserve team players were ready to make the step up to the first team as cover for the many injured players that we had last season.

    I can’t put my hand on my heart and say that the first team is run as well as the youth and reserve teams, because let’s face it, it isn’t. The first team is the public face of our club, the most important facet of the whole SAFC brand, so why is the first team in such disarray at the moment?

    I would not go as far as to say that the current situation is embarrassing, but what I would say is that it’s all a bit of a shambles. I am not aware of any other club in the Premier League (including the 3 promoted sides) that has to recruit 8 new signings before the new season kicks off in August. We are about to embark on our 5th consecutive season (Steve Bruce’s 3rd season) in the premier league and yet we, the fans, find ourselves watching Steve Bruce and Niall Quinn frantically trying to recruit enough players to give the club at least a fighting chance of getting through next season without another crisis, caused in the main by a shortage of fit players and the serious error of going into last season with a squad that was too small.

    Steve Bruce said last season that he was hoping to add just one or two quality signings for the new season. How on earth could he say that when we had 5 loan players at the club last season? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t recall seeing any other premier league club with 5 loan players last season, so why are we doing it? The policy of signing so many loans has really come back to bite Steve Bruce and Niall Quinn right in the arse and has to stop. Quality has been blown out of the water for the sake of quantity. The need of 8 new players means that it is highly unlikely that we will be “breaking the transfer record” in the search for Darren Bent’s replacement.

    The optimists amongst us are making me dizzy with all of the spin that is being put on the rumours about our proposed targets. For example, I have been stunned by the amount of fans that are happy to see Wes Brown signed to our club, some of whom are the same fans that were not happy with the fitness levels of John Mensah, but will happily accept a player with more or less the same injury record!

    I think I’d rather stew in my pessimism than accept a notion that players like Wes Brown are going to be good signings for Sunderland, they are not.
     
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  18. blackcatsteve

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    I cant find browns injury record, i havnt looked very hard either mind, but considering he has Ferdinand, Vidic, Evans, Smalling, O`Shea, Neville, Evra and the twins to contend with i dont think he has done too bad apearence wise.

    This is all comps btw

    2010&#8211;11 15
    2009&#8211;10 28
    2008&#8211;09 13
    2007&#8211;08 52
    2006&#8211;07 37
    2005&#8211;06 31
    2004&#8211;05 37
    2003&#8211;04 25
    2002&#8211;03 35
    2001&#8211;02 24
    2000&#8211;01 41

    Yes he may get injured just like a lot of players get injured, but i dont think he is as injury prone as some on here make out he is.
     
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  19. Dorset

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    These stats don't show the whole picture though Steve. How many of those appearances were as a last 5 minutes sub? How many of them were where he has started the game, but has had to come off injured? I was reading posts by Man Utd fans last night and they were in agreement that Wes Brown has not been the same player since the 2007/8 season when they said he was outstanding that year. They went on to say that since then, he has been far too injury prone and he is no longer the player he once was and they were really chuffed to find out that he was possibly being sold to us. What also has to be questioned is his willingness and ability to play a full season, when he has been quite happy to warm the Man Utd bench for the last 3 years and play a bit part in their success, rather than leave the club for regular first team action.
     
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  20. blackcatsteve

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    well i cant be arsed to copy all of this lol but work it out for yourself

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/8866/wes-brown?cc=5739

    and he came through the youth ranks and is at arguably the best club in England, if i was good, and played for sunderland, and they were as good as Man U, i would stay as well.
     
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