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What a joke our Football authorities are

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Bergkamp a Dutch master, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. He dragged a player off the ground, shook him around. That's worth a 3-match ban too but the referee and the fourth official wore blinkers.
     
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  2. SAMOC

    SAMOC New Member

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    its not the same as slapping someone in the face!

    The rules specifically state that any rasing of hands and contact with another player in that manner is an automatic red
     
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  3. SAMOC

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    however, barton is not the issue, your player commited an offence and rightfully got punished for it
     
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  4. Barton aggressively handled the player. From that moment it was inevitable that players in a contact sport would react that way. Not correct I accept but you can surely see my point. Barton is no saint as you can see. What would you call it I wonder?


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    If you are unable to see and have regard for what is fair, then I wonder what your understanding of sport is


    And in the background, he who did the tripping merrily runs away.....
     
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  5. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    I give up protesting - I'm in the minority. Send Gervinho back to his country, award Barton an MBE.

    Knight the officials - have the FA take over FIFA.
     
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  6. SAMOC

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    i have said i am not taling about barton, there is no point he got booked therfore nothing can be done, i am on the arsenal board to discuss your players atrocious violent conduct
     
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    <doh> It was a stone cold dive, how on earth can you justify anything Gervinho did?! Watch the thing again, Tiote doesn't even know what is going on. Put yourself in Bartons shoes, a player goes down VERY easily in the penalty area, of course you are going to be angry. Now I know Barton shouldn't have picked him back up in reality but I understand why he did it. The players rushing to the balloon heads aid made it seem a lot worse and he definitely had no right to slap him. ALSO the referee had his back turned when Barton picked him up so he may have given him a red if he actually saw it.
     
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    Ther you go you said "the triping" lol your are incredibly bitter, everyone outside your bubble agrees it was a dive
     
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  9. Atrocious violent conduct - boy I love the depth of your imagination <laugh>
     
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  10. I followed the commentary on Talksport and like it or not, they believed that it was a trip.

    It's interesting that you see Barton's assumption that Gervinho ' dived ' to be the ' just cause ' for his taking the law into his own hands, yet you are unable to see that Gervinho could be similarly annoyed that Barton handled him in a violent and aggressive manner. I put it to you that what's sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.
     
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  11. I refer you to the commentary on Talksport where Gervinho was adjudged to have been tripped. I'm not altogether surprised that toon fans should not wish to see it that way. As for being in a bubble, I'm rather glad not to be in yours.

    This debate is pointless if Toon fans only wish take the truth to be as they see it. I will add no more to it and wish you the best of seasons.
     
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    I would deck someone who did that to me.
     
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    Ger shouldn't have dived in the first place.
     
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  14. Kyle?

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    There was contact, it wasn't a dive. Sure, he made the most of it, but there was contact.
     
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    It's the equivalent of a burglar coming into your home and you using a knife to defend yourself and getting sent down while the burglar gets away scot free.
     
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  16. in carr we trust

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    if it had been the other way round you'd all be congratulating gervinho for what he did i'm not saying what barton did was right even he has said it wasn't however he he was yellow carded so the fa cant do anything about it and also barton has served his time is that not the point of the justice system so stop dragging it up every time he is involved. if you remember me arsenal (tony adams) is also a criminal and went to prison.
     
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  17. Tiote's Witch Doctor

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    Justice was served. For once the FA got everything 100% correct.
     
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  18. ToledoTrumpton

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    Even Joey Barton has said on twitter that there was contact, although he does say that Gervinho went down too easily.

    It was barely a "slap", he reached over two players holding him back and touched Barton's face and Song's was barely a "stamp" either. He trod on Bartons leg.

    There is no rule about raising hands or such nonsense Comas. The only rule that Gervinho could have got a red for in this situation is: "A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball."

    Interestingly, I would love to see what offence Barton was charged with, as he was clearly not challenging for the ball and so if the referee doesn't think him guilty of violent conduct for which the penalty is red, then what did he get the yellow for?

    But this is the trouble, the referees are allowed to make up rules as they see fit. No wonder they end up is such a mess.
     
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  19. D'Jeezus MackAroni

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    Barton should have been sent, but wasn't. What good is a retrospective ban for Arsenal now?

    Gervinho deserved his red, although it was handbags and if Barton was more of a man he would have stayed on his feet and not cheated to get a fellow pro sent off.

    Song deserved a red, the ref missed it. Why Newcastle fans want him banned retrospectively I do not know, won't do them any good.
     
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    Would show the FA is doing something good from the start of the season in my opinion. That and I wouldn't mind Arsenal losing the next 3-4 games for being cheating bastards. Wallcott last night, down stupidly easily then claiming a penalty, ****ing hell.
     
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