West London is R's?

Even the so called best fans in the world at Anfield and St James Park aren't any better than any other ground. City last year were the only side to generate an atmosphere and create a fortress

 

Spot on District

Only good away atmosphere I witnessed last season was the Eithad, and one of the best I've witnessed in a long time.

 

Same. I didn't think any of the others were anything to run to the hills about. Given the fact City were stuttering at the time and United were flying, City really got behind their team. In hindsight I am not annoyed we lost as it meant a proper club won the league. My fear was that it would count for nothing but it proved to be the turning point in the title race.

 

We got our double, City got the League. Love it, pissed the self-righteous 'big 3' off a treat.


...and Spuds

 

Etihad is best atmos in the Prem at the mo on a week by week basis.

I hate to say it but in recent years Spurs has been one of the best London atmospheres... When back in the day it used to be us and West Ham.

Qpr was v noisy in the first half of the league game and then back to its subbuteo self for the cup game.

We rocked Loftus road in the 70s 80s 90s and the sensible Rrrs know it; that's where a lot of the hate comes I guess. We used to sit all round their ground and they did not do a thing about it. The Ellerslie was taken over by away fans: west ham, man u, all sat in their Home end in numbers.

You could just buy tickets at qpr without membership in those days and rangers let it happen because they needed 10k Chelsea or united to fill their ground

 

Forgive my ignorance as a relative youngster but in those days didn't everyone just pay on the gate? Given Loftus Rd is no further to travel it would make sense for loads of Chelsea to turn up. Away fans sat in the home ends at all clubs- Cass Pennant, a reliable enough source, wrote about being behind the goal with the home fans at Stamford Bridge when West Ham won there back in the day and I doubt he'd have been the only one nor would he have stood there silently.

 

For seats you could buy tickets in advance: we'd just go to the QPR box office and buy seats in the Ellersie especially after Loftus went all-seater. The FA cup replay in 96 for example was more than half Chelsea in the Ellerslie. The singing during half time in the Ellerslie after Furlong scored was the noisiest I'd witnessed at Loftus. We had fans in South Africa upper and paddocks too.

In general terracing was pay on the day; although Bates made some games all ticket in the mid80s to stop fighting.

I remember West Ham getting in The Shed 84 and then running us all around the West Stand again April 86 when they beat us 4-0 at home (the most depressing day I have ever had as a Chelsea fan). We lost 6-0 to you guys two days later. An Easter to forget!

 

Watford i went to all the QPR/Chelsea games in the mid/late 80's and it was never as bad as the deluded say.

I used stand behind the goal in the lower loft and NEVER was there any Chelsea fans in there signing (utter rubbish). in 2-0 game when Furs scored (for them) i was in ER stand that night and pockets of Chelsea fans especially around T/S blocks jumped up when they scored but that was it, and not the 40,000 that all say were there.
In the famous 87/88 game where we beat them 3-1 and that 'donut' missed a pen. All they had was fans in the away end and a few in the lower paddock but most were gone before the end. Don't belive the rubbish 'that they stayed until the end' (yeah sure they did).

Even the games at their ground around that time we always had a good following (except that cup replay game). I knew quite a few of the Chelsea boys back then and would go for a beer after the game with them.
All games in those days had away fans getting in with the home ones and at Chelsea it was no different. You are correct about west Ham but also Millwall (just ask Lovly Geezer on the wall page, wall all over SB).

I also went to a few games at SB back then and they often got 16-20K gates. Once when the R's were away and we didn't go about 6/7 Rangers turned up at SB for a game against Arsenal (which the Gooners won). We paid on the day and the gate was in the 20K.

All clubs have ups/downs good/bad days even Chelsea. Last week we only took 1500 to City yet 3200 to a friendly at Wycombe? Chelsea can take a few away but also struggle to sell Champions lg, cup semi, charity shild games, that's how it goes.

The thing with history is unless you were there or if it is well documented then it is easy for people to say 'Back in the day Chelsea took 3 sides of LR' when in reality a there were only few scattered fans in pockets due to bad ticketing.

 

i went to see q.p.r v chelsea at loftus road and rangers won 3-2 me think, that was mid 80s and i was in the ellers stand chelsea fas everywhere, thats how football was, i also remember ffc v cfc early 80s 5-3 to them and cfc fans all around the ground, thats the way things were, also i remember q.p.r v ffc half the loft was rangers and half was ffc, the bad days of football really, some older fans 45+ still live in the past

 

That 5-3 game was great. Gordon Davies HT. The Putney (away) end was full so I stood in the hammersmith. end. Not much trouble though.

When Chelsea went to Rangers and Fulham we took such big numbers in home areas, so we could not be singled out and targeted by home fans like at say West Ham (I shat my load in their end once)

 

The thing is traveller (which is an apt name btw) I don't ever remember QPR/Fulham games in Mid/late 80's because other than Friendlies about the Paul Parker Dean Coney time we were not in the same division? I have missed something? Unless you are talking 70's then i would agree as older family members would go Chelsea/QPR/Fulham depending on who was at home. That's another reason why i don't really see the QPR/Fulham thing as most young fans cannot remember and those old enough to remember should know better?

As for the age thing you are spot on and it was something i was going to bring up at some stage.
Funny how certain posters goad me by saying they were at QPR/Chelsea games in the early 80's and then post that they are 40? Were they in prams? Sorry need to do the maths again.

As i said before history gets handed down and changes with the years. I am waiting for the day when no QPR fans were at the famous QPR/Chelsea game and Chelsea had 4 sides i wasn't there?

 

'saying they were at QPR/Chelsea games in the early 80's and then post that they are 40? Were they in prams? Sorry need to do the maths again.'

If you were born in October 71, you would be 11/12 say in 1983.
Maybe you need to do your MAths again

 

Next.

 

the ffc v qpr games as i maybe a few years out were 79-82 years, those days you always beat us, gary waddock making his debut at ffc v qpr i believe he scored, never liked the ginger for that lol

 

Yeah late 70's early 80's were just before my time. 82 was the year i really started appreciating football. Although my Dad took me in the 70's to both Chelsea/QPR and probably even Fulham games, i can honestly say that 82+ was the main years.
I remember Gary Waddock though and have even spoke to him in recent times.

 

You went to Chelsea in the 70s.. how old were you? in your pram??
See QPR have only sold 1600 for Spuds away. Pathetic
http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/130912-spurs-tickets-353574.aspx

 

Ellers I don't doubt you when you say our support was flakey in the 80s, but the lowest gate at any Chelsea v Arsenal game was about 24,000 and that was at Arsenal's ground. I think the lowest at ours was 26,000

http://www.thechels.co.uk/analysis/results/?team=ARSENAL

You are obviously older and hence wiser than me but in fairness all clubs posted lower attendances in the 80s so it is a bit harsh IMO to single out Chelsea. Liverpool posted 12k gates in the 80s. You are right in that some of our attendances for QPR games at SB have been rubbish but never for Spurs, Arsenal or West Ham for instance, or United or Liverpool who dominated at the time.

Some of our most embarrassing gates 8k v Coventry and I think 12k v Southampton were against unfancied sides. In 1966 (where English football peaked), Arsenal got a 4.5k crowd vs Leeds for instance. I can't recall us ever posting a gate that low, especially against a side like Leeds.

But you are spot on about all clubs have ups/downs.

At the end of the day Ellers you support a good club and you are local. QPR represents you and the community you are based in, you can be proud of that. I think LF was just winding you up a bit. All fans take the mick out of each others attendances

 

It is possible that the numbers of CFC at Loftus Road were over-exaggerated or under-exaggerated. At the end of the dat we will never know. Football is so tribal, it's like Spurs fans saying "West Ham's home fans were awful" and West Ham saying "Spurs were the worst away fans we've had, we outsung them all game". When the reality is both sets of fans were moderate.

 

yes but we took 42000 to s.b on boxing day 76 lost 2-0 george best played, 30000 of us never got in 55,000 crowd lol