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West Ham vs Man Utd Match Thread

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by green_day, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. Sweats

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    I'm just not blinkered to think that players are amazing because they play for us..

    Park had about three good games maybe four. He was s hit. Just ran around a lot and gave the ball away.

    I want kagawa to do well. I just think be has shown nothing as of get not just yesterday's performance.
     
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  2. Christiansmith

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    I have to disagree with you on that. Park played well for us until the last few years. As I said you can't expect him to be a Scholes but SAF got the best out of him. I am amongst the majority of the fans who think he has been a great servant to the club. Good luck to him <ok>
     
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  3. King Shergar

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    Park was one of my favourite players during his time with us, he was alot better than you are giving him credit for. SAF wouldn't have played him in so many big games if he wasn't any good :biggrin:
     
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  4. Sweats

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    Best thing about him was his song.

    I know he was a good servant to the club. As was john Oshea .. Doesn't make them great players.
     
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  5. green_day

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    True but they played a apart in us winning the league back in the 06/07 season.
     
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  6. King Shergar

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    You mean the same John O'Shea who nutmegged Luis Figo? :biggrin:
     
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  7. shwan

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    spot on
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  8. shwan

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    fair analyse and spot on <ok>
     
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  9. Psycho2k

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    Kagawa is only 23 and was excellent for 2 years in Germany (I watched a lot of Dortmund during his time there and he was a key part of their attacking lineup), I think it will take him a bit of time to fully adapt to United as I think he will be asked to play deeper than he was in Germany but he definitely has plenty of talent and he was starting to show some very good link up play before he got injured.
     
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  10. shwan

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    let us all agree that he did showed some brilliant link up at times but overall never hit his form level that he showed back in Germany
    and all people defending him are simply based on what he did in Germany and some few moments of good link up at times .. is that enough to ease the worry that he will not fit PL? Not really am still worried .. he is easily pushed off the ball taken very timid facing the goal or trying to run with the ball .. so overall he did shown some of his potential .. but those were just too little to be judged as good .. overall he was average or below average compared to cleverly or Anderson for example
     
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    And people criticizing him are basing it on what, 10 games? A few of those games were as a sub too, extremely harsh to brand a player as useless or **** after less than a dozen games after moving from a different nation.
     
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  12. shwan

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    is jsut an honest opinion of his form with UTD no more no less
    and he is useless so far .. will that change in the future ? may be bcz he showed quality at his previous club
     
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  13. Psycho2k

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    He has been bad in one game, he was decent in some of the others and played pretty well in a few too, to say he's useless based on only a handful of games is pathetic to be honest.
     
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  14. shwan

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    sorry.. which games he was decent?
     
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    FFS why are you so f**king aggressive against one of our own players? He hasn't had a chance to show what he can do yet. Are we so mediocre at the moment that you have to finger people? We are top of the bloody league and still in the CL. And you are tearing one of our players apart..<ok>
     
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  16. Sweats

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    I only took exception to him being labelled as some sort of messiah. Like he is world class because he plays for us therefore he must be.

    What I've seen of him it's been uninspiring.

    If it were the scousers lording it over someone who had performed as he had we'd be ripping it into them over it..

    He is average at best.. Maybe he has the potential I hope so I e just not seen any evidence of this as yet.
     
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    He has the potential to be a world-class player for us.
     
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  18. shwan

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    am not aggressive ..is just an honest opinion .. his contribution till now is way way less than what he offered to Dortmund or to what Anderson or Cleverly are giving us
    did i said he is a flop or we need to sell him? NO.. bcz i think he has something and am giving him the benefits of doubts, as he just came to a new league and had an injury that take him out for sometimes .. but i just give a simple assessment to what he give us till now..
     
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  19. shwan

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    spot on <ok>
     
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    To be fair no one has labelled him as a messiah. These types of players come along once in a while. A Cantona, a Giggs,a Scholes. RVP could turn out to be a great player for us if we win trophies with him. Kagawa is nowhere near that but let's not label him as crap either before he has had a good go...<ok>
     
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